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chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9944925)
Well said Smudgie

Niamh who abused you over Sam ?

Rob! 06-04-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944958)
Because you're calling this a witch hunt, and it isn't. And if you don't go into SD then you don't have the full picture... but you're free to comment without knowing the full picture, of course. I would prefer you saw both sides, then you'd understand.

I’ve read it though. It doesn’t seem like the sort of place to post that I would enjoy. I’lL occasionally go in and post my opinion, but there are some threads that I will see the title of and just know that the posts within it are going to make me angry, so I don’t go in. I do the same with Daily Mail articles.

Cherie 06-04-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9944953)
Why would being in SD more make a difference? I’ve seen what it’s like in there myself. It’s horrible. It’s full of arguments, not debates and people are made to feel like crap for having a different opinion. It also is the area that is causing one of the main issues (although there are others. Why would I want to post in there?

Yes you are right, or they are told that opinion is made up because of a general dislike of the other person and they truely don't believe in the point they are making, or they are told the place was better when they were banned, none of those people have made any ban list recently. If you feel its a witch hunt that is your opinion, but it is far from it, we need consistency and a fair hand for everyone that is all.

Niamh. 06-04-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9944965)
Niamh who abused you over Sam ?

What do you mean?

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9944968)
What do you mean?

Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

Twosugars 06-04-2018 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944961)
You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

There you go again, dismissing my right to have my own opinion because I'm a relatively new member (four months and counting). And this paranoid belief I'm a returning member :laugh: - another fabricated reason to undermine my opinion.
Bullying disguised as self-righteousness.

Niamh. 06-04-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9944969)
Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

Oh no not from other members from Sam himself (before he was perma banned obviously) saying that I disliked him because he was Protestant and alot of weird stuff :laugh:

Tom4784 06-04-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9944969)
Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

My bad, I meant she got abuse from Sam himself.

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9944974)
Oh no not from other members from Sam himself (before he was perma banned obviously) saying that I disliked him because he was Protestant and alot of weird stuff :laugh:

Thanks for clearing that up

Kazanne 06-04-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9944914)
Welcome back Mrs Josy. Could you not trial it in SD for 3 months or something? I think most people would be happy if bans and infractions are handed out by someone who plays within the rules themselves and someone who is fair and even handed?

In a nutshell Cherie,I have no problem with rules as long as it applies to us ALL.

Niamh. 06-04-2018 10:45 AM

Honestly, I think the best solution for SDs would be have none of the current mods moderate it, get 2 or 3 new mods that nobody knows who they are to look after it. I'd be happy to stand down to make space for them aswell. I'm so tired of all this agro

Kazanne 06-04-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9944966)
I’ve read it though. It doesn’t seem like the sort of place to post that I would enjoy. I’lL occasionally go in and post my opinion, but there are some threads that I will see the title of and just know that the posts within it are going to make me angry, so I don’t go in. I do the same with Daily Mail articles.

Just remember a lot of responses were deleted ,if they hadn't been you may understand the problem more.

Livia 06-04-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9944973)
There you go again, dismissing my right to have my own opinion because I'm a relatively new member (four months and counting). And this paranoid belief I'm a returning member :laugh: - another fabricated reason to undermine my opinion.
Bullying disguised as self-righteousness.

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

Twosugars 06-04-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944961)
You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9944979)
Honestly, I think the best solution for SDs would be have none of the current mods moderate it, get 2 or 3 new mods that nobody knows who they are to look after it. I'd be happy to stand down to make space for them aswell. I'm so tired of all this agro

I agree ,and if a mod comments in there they can get infracted and banned the same as members

And NO WAY are you standing down young lady, you are a fair and honest mod on here and this place needs people like you ,you are liked by everyone, Ive never heard of anyone who has a gripe about you

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944983)
Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

:clap1:

Niamh. 06-04-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9944986)
I agree ,and if a mod comments in there they can get infracted and banned the same as members

And NO WAY are you standing down young lady, you are a fair and honest mod on here and this place needs people like you ,you are liked by everyone, Ive never heard of anyone who has a gripe about you

I'd be totally fine with that too tbh

Twosugars 06-04-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944983)
Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

who else does? do tell
and who am I supposed to be? share that with all, stop beating about the bush
once that's out in the open maybe we can devise a verification so that we can prove how foolish this accusation is :laugh:

Livia 06-04-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9944984)
I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

Livia 06-04-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9944990)
who else does? do tell
and who am I supposed to be? share that with all, stop beating about the bush
once that's out in the open maybe we can devise a verification so that we can prove how foolish this accusation is :laugh:

This thread is not about you.

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9944989)
I'd be totally fine with that too tbh

It would make mods who choose to comment in there think twice before posting what they are posting at the minute behind the armour of a mod badge

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944991)
You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

Sweeping comments were made about people when he/she had less than 100 posts

Back on topic . Im so glad things are getting thrashed out, it needed doing a long time ago

Rob! 06-04-2018 10:56 AM

So you’re suggesting that the mods you don’t like are banned from the entire section basically?

Twosugars 06-04-2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9944991)
You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

meaningless of inconvenient? if there were meaningless you'd not engage discussing with me

4 months is plenty; I bet 4 days would be enough, the attacks on Dezzy are very regular and predictable

Niamh. 06-04-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9944996)
So you’re suggesting that the mods you don’t like are banned from the entire section basically?

I don't think that's what she's suggesting at all tbf, she's saying that mods could be infracted in there.


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