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arista 09-02-2023 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11259717)
There's a lot of misinformation being posted. I saw someone say that her company was going bust and you can see there's a proposal to strike it off on Companies House. I looked her up on there and it's not true at all


Yes Of Course

But why can The Police not do a Daily
statement


I am saying to you
The Police have Left a Void

MTVN 09-02-2023 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11259722)
Yes Of Course

But why can The Police not do a Daily
statement


I am saying to you
The Police have Left a Void

Yes I agree, they have left an information vacuum there

bots 09-02-2023 11:00 AM

the reason social media have gone ape**** is because the police have not said .... this is what we have done, this is what we have discounted because .... this is what we are currently following up on. All they have said is that she must have fallen in the river. Faith in the police is at an all time low and their communications in this case have been dreadful

Liam- 09-02-2023 11:20 AM

People on social media go ape**** because they think they’re experts on everything, make up their own scenarios in their heads based on nothing and then don’t like it when their baseless conspiracies aren’t taken seriously, or don’t come to fruition based on actual evidence and investigating by the experts, it’s regularly turning cases into public circuses

Oliver_W 09-02-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11259734)
People on social media go ape**** because they think they’re experts on everything, make up their own scenarios in their heads based on nothing and then don’t like it when their baseless conspiracies aren’t taken seriously, or don’t come to fruition based on actual evidence and investigating by the experts, it’s regularly turning cases into public circuses

My (I admit) crackpot theory is apparently more likely than her having fallen in :joker: I don't use twitter so I don't know how common that theory is though.

arista 09-02-2023 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11259735)
My (I admit) crackpot theory is apparently more likely than her having fallen in :joker: I don't use twitter so I don't know how common that theory is though.

You should join Twitter
there are many things on there
you would like

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 11:32 AM


Oliver_W 09-02-2023 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11259739)
You should join Twitter
there are many things on there
you would like

There's more stuff that I wouldn't like, it's pretty toxic.

Cherie 09-02-2023 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11259743)

Tbf women don't need to be told not to walk alone etc, they are not stupid!

and given the police do not suspect third party involvement which they have stated many times why would they advise that?

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11259748)
Tbf women don't need to be told not to walk alone etc, they are not stupid!

and given the police do not suspect third party involvement which they have stated many times why would they advise that?

They now say that she could have gone through the gate and off up the lane

They know she isnt in the river so they must now suspect she was abducted

arista 09-02-2023 12:48 PM

Police Search now at the Sea

Coast Area


https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bu...e-bay-12806835

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11259771)
Police Search now at the Sea

Coast Area


https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bu...e-bay-12806835

FROM THE ARTICLE: "Police had been working on the theory that she fell into
the River Wyre, but her family and friends claimed there was "no evidence
whatsoever" of this."

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 02:51 PM


GoldHeart 09-02-2023 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11259829)

A van now !??

I guess the abandoned house was a dead end then , anyone else suspicious of the CCTV being broken :suspect: .

bots 09-02-2023 02:57 PM

we are almost getting in to vigilante territory now. There will have been lots of traffic movements

Cherie 09-02-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11259829)

A worried resident comes forward 2 weeks later?

GoldHeart 09-02-2023 02:59 PM

Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 03:24 PM

Nicola Bulley diving expert reveals video ‘proof’ she didn’t fall into
the river where cops claim she vanished


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...7-10.jpg?w=620

Dive expert Peter Faulding says a clip shows the river is slow-moving, which
means she would have sunk "very quickly".

He claims this means Nicola, 45, would have remained near where she
disappeared on January 27 if she'd fallen in.

The forensic expert also says the missing mum could have simply "stood up" in
the water as rocks at the time were under just 2ft of water.

Speaking about the video, Peter said: "The log stayed at that point for 20
minutes, and it actually spiralled and went up six feet and came back to the
same place.

"The river on the day was slightly higher - it was about a foot higher - but I'd
be very surprised in my experience [if she was there] as a body usually goes
to the bottom very quickly.

"If Nicola slipped down the bank, she would have landed in about 2ft of water
but onto rocks, and she could have stood up."

He was yesterday pictured visiting the scene where Nicola was last seen with
her partner Paul Ansell.

Peter claims Paul now believes "Nicola has not gone in that river" after
speaking with the diving experts.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/213333...no-river-fall/

Cherie 09-02-2023 05:10 PM

I hope they haven't spent two weeks troupsing up and down the river if she has been abducted, this could turn into another Suzy Lamplugh

MTVN 09-02-2023 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11259837)
Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .

She did come forward shortly after the police said they wanted to speak to her I believe

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 05:27 PM

Nicola Bulley can’t have ‘vanished’ – this is what the police should do now

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incomin...her-at-4pm.jpg

It is now 14 days since mum of two, Nicola Bulley was last seen – leaving her family, friends and the police baffled by her disappearance. Let’s be clear: people don’t just vanish, there is always an explanation.

So, what could have happened to her?

To my mind, there are three options. The first is what police have believed from day one: that Nicola fell into the River Wyre. However, even though they have made this their main focus, this is looking more and more unlikely. They have flooded the search of the river with massive resources, including private divers, which will have detracted from other areas being searched. Yet they still have no evidence to support their hypothesis that she has fallen into the river.

The other two options are therefore, in my opinion, becoming increasingly more likely: that she left of her own free will, or a third-party was involved.

The police have identified a window of opportunity of about 10 minutes, when they have no sighting or information about Nicola’s whereabouts. This is ample time – either for her to get herself some distance from the river bank and the phone, or for someone else to have been involved. I know the police have stated clearly that they have no evidence of third-party involvement or criminal behaviour, but neither do they have any evidence that she fell into the river. So, all three options must remain on the table until they are eliminated.

To date, the assumption has been that if Nicola left by what whatever means, it would have been by a path – but how can we be so certain about that? Had she left via a field or non-official path, she would not have been seen on CCTV.

A lot has been made of her mobile phone on the bench as being the location she entered the water, but evidence from the police who have thoroughly searched the area downstream to the weir tells us that this is almost certainly not the case. With the flow of the River Wyre at the time only being very slightly higher and faster, it is still not enough to drag a fully clothed, fit and healthy person far downstream. If she did lose consciousness straight away, because of the water temperature she would have sunk to the bottom.

The police have come under a lot of criticism – some founded, some very unfair. Nobody can doubt their desire to find Nicola, but what has been lacking is a clear, appropriate and effective media strategy. For example, on day one conflicting information was released about where the dog was found. They also said they were certain Nicola did not leave the area, only to follow it up a few days later saying it’s possible – because a path was not covered by CCTV.

But my biggest concern is the police concluding – within days of Nicola’s disappearance – that they had formed a working hypothesis that Nicola fell into the water and drowned. My major problem with having a hypothesis so early is it has the danger of looking for evidence to fit that theory, rather than everyone remaining open-minded.

With my experience as a former detective, I think this is what the police investigation should focus on now:

1) Conclude the water search as soon as possible – once all areas are eliminated;

2) Focus on a wider search of the fields and wooded area on land;

3) Fitbit data on average updates every 15 minutes via Bluetooth to Nicola’s phone – when did that last happen? This will help give an indication of when the watch went out of range, and if the watch was still on her wrist this could significantly helping with the time line and radius of search;

4) Reconstruction and road checks – people are creatures of habit. Most of us take the same route at the same time, on the same day, every week. This may well identify new witnesses, who have not yet come forward.

Having dealt with many families who are in the same place as Nicola’s family now tragically find themselves in, I know they hold on to every possible piece of hope. They will be watching the news and reading articles. It will be a relief for them I am sure that the brilliant forensics expert Peter Faulding did not find her, but I can tell you from experience it’s the not knowing that eats away, far more. That is why they need answers, not hypotheses.

Mark Williams-Thomas is an investigative reporter. He is also the presenter of ITV and Netflix series The Investigator

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b2279185.html

Gusto Brunt 09-02-2023 06:30 PM

It's very rare I ever get any abuse on social media. In fact it might have been about three times in ten years.

But since I've been contributing to the case of missing Nicola, I've had a lot of abuse on YouTube just for saying I think she was abducted. Not killed but taken by someone.

I've had some really nasty comments from people who will not accept any other version of events other than she has drowned and is in the river.

We're all entitled to an opinion but I think I will stop posting comments on YouTube regarding the matter. :)

Crimson Dynamo 09-02-2023 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gusto brunt (Post 11259919)
it's very rare i ever get any abuse on social media. In fact it might have been about three times in ten years.

But since i've been contributing to the case of missing nicola, i've had a lot of abuse on youtube just for saying i think she was abducted. Not killed but taken by someone.

I've had some really nasty comments from people who will not accept any other version of events other than she has drowned and is in the river.

We're all entitled to an opinion but i think i will stop posting comments on youtube regarding the matter. :)

dont be intimidated gusto

Cherie 09-02-2023 07:37 PM

Why have they not released the fitbit data, if she died on the day then surely they can say this?

arista 10-02-2023 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11259976)
Why have they not released the fitbit data, if she died on the day then surely they can say this?


For some reason, Police Refuse


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