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bots 28-05-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11457072)
"The SNP say they are the party to vote for as they will concentrate on Scotland"

they spend all their time spouting on about "Palestine" thousands of miles away

absolute wallopers

they have done so well with the NHS etc, their record speaks for itself :laugh:

I actually think that labour might get a shock in Scotland and find that it is the tories that pick up the most seats from the SNP. Scotland has never followed england like sheep with their politics

smudgie 28-05-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11456983)
It means by 2030, pensioners could get an extra £200 a year. That will go a long way :laugh:

Extra £900 a year this year, keeping the triple lock, plus the extra tax allowance can only be a good thing…for pensioners.
Hoping it carries on this way.

arista 29-05-2024 12:44 AM

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arista 29-05-2024 12:47 AM

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arista 29-05-2024 01:42 AM

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Mystic Mock 29-05-2024 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11457062)
Raynors case hasn't been dropped per se, the Police have just lumped it over to HMRC and the Council, not sure why the would do that if they fully investigated it and found nothing :shrug:

Because if she has done anything wrong, I'm going to guess that the sum isn't that huge for the Police to take that seriously.

Mystic Mock 29-05-2024 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11457069)
The Tories love using the police as their own personal propaganda force, what with ‘curry gate’ and now this, forcing the police to investigate their opponents multiple times for farcical reasons, it’s politics at its worst

What's curry gate?

Mystic Mock 29-05-2024 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11457102)
they have done so well with the NHS etc, their record speaks for itself :laugh:

I actually think that labour might get a shock in Scotland and find that it is the tories that pick up the most seats from the SNP. Scotland has never followed england like sheep with their politics

The majority of Scotland won't touch the Tories.

They've never let go of the 80's.

arista 29-05-2024 04:58 AM

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arista 29-05-2024 04:59 AM

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arista 29-05-2024 05:01 AM

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joeysteele 29-05-2024 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11457283)
Because if she has done anything wrong, I'm going to guess that the sum isn't that huge for the Police to take that seriously.

No Mock
The reason it was referred to the Council and HMRC is that's not the part of the issue the police would normally deal with.

However, the Council nor HMRC also see no action to take .

It won't stop the smears though.
The Cons either hate or fear Angela Raynor so will look for anything at all to attempt to discredit her.

It's a pity she wouldn't set out to prosecute those who falsely accuse her of things.
If she did of course, then she'd be attacked for being spiteful and vindictive from those who intensely dislike her.

There was nothing here.
Even if anything had been incorrect.
She took Independent legal and financial advice on going about this sale.
Which she followed to the letter.

So it would have more likely been the advice was wrong but it's been found that it wasn't wrong and neither is she.
Pure and simple.
Much to the Cons smouldering frustration to discredit her.

Kazanne 29-05-2024 08:14 AM

Joey, maybe you can answer this, Starmer wants to get NHS appointment waiting lists down which is good,but how can he do that if as we are told they are short of staff ? they can only deal with what they are dealing with now, so how will that be possible ?

bots 29-05-2024 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11457360)
Joey, maybe you can answer this, Starmer wants to get NHS appointment waiting lists down which is good,but how can he do that if as we are told they are short of staff ? they can only deal with what they are dealing with now, so how will that be possible ?

It's not possible unless you remove people from lists

Mystic Mock 29-05-2024 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11457329)
No Mock
The reason it was referred to the Council and HMRC is that's not the part of the issue the police would normally deal with.

However, the Council nor HMRC also see no action to take .

It won't stop the smears though.
The Cons either hate or fear Angela Raynor so will look for anything at all to attempt to discredit her.

It's a pity she wouldn't set out to prosecute those who falsely accuse her of things.
If she did of course, then she'd be attacked for being spiteful and vindictive from those who intensely dislike her.

There was nothing here.
Even if anything had been incorrect.
She took Independent legal and financial advice on going about this sale.
Which she followed to the letter.

So it would have more likely been the advice was wrong but it's been found that it wasn't wrong and neither is she.
Pure and simple.
Much to the Cons smouldering frustration to discredit her.

I agree with you personally.

I'm just thinking on the off chance that there is even an offence that she might've committed, I'm gathering that it would've been minor, as like you've said yourself Joey, the Police have struggled to find anything on her.

Mystic Mock 29-05-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11457360)
Joey, maybe you can answer this, Starmer wants to get NHS appointment waiting lists down which is good,but how can he do that if as we are told they are short of staff ? they can only deal with what they are dealing with now, so how will that be possible ?

He'll have to try and find a way of creating new jobs at the NHS would be my guess.

Joey will definitely have the better answer though.:laugh:

joeysteele 29-05-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11457360)
Joey, maybe you can answer this, Starmer wants to get NHS appointment waiting lists down which is good,but how can he do that if as we are told they are short of staff ? they can only deal with what they are dealing with now, so how will that be possible ?

Yes I'll try to in a small way hopefully Kazanne.:wavey:

I think you'll recall when Mr ugh Blair won in 1997.
He started to get the then waiting lists down by bringing in private sources.
This is Streeting's plan too to help with that.

I'm pleased too that Wes Streeting realises that major reform of the NHS will be necessary.
Not to break it's core founding of care free at the point of need.
However to make more of the resources already in place which are not being used more efficiently.

Plus, he's looking to have weekend working too, which will help considerably in dealing with the backlog in conjunction too with the private input too.

That's the starting point and sorry I was only 5 when this was done from 1997.
However it had a big impact on the then high waiting list that had built up to 1997.

I think too, and he's rightly said even today, he cannot give the Junior Doctors anything like 35% on wages.
However he will meet regularly and negotiate across the board on all their concerns not just pay.

Myself, I believe he can then just with those things, start to substantially bring down the waiting lists.
It's scandalous to me that elderly people are on the list for operations for cataracts, knee and hip operations for a year and in many cases years.

Plus too, digressing now, if Streeting's looking for ideas to fully reform the NHS .
Then if I was him, I'd start by phasing out the parasitical trust management set up.
Get back to something like Matrons running hospitals.

Those trust managers and their endless number of admin staff for them.
Contribute not a single thing to hands on care.
I'd rather see them replaced by new Doctors and Nurses.
That's what I'd like to see.

It's not going to be easy and I don't want to get party political with you because I know you genuinely believe in the Conservatives and respect that.

However the confrontational attitude towards Junior Doctors and the lip service to the NHS as to how great it is, is NOT going to do much to bring down waiting lists.

Hope I've said some little thing to help answer your query there Kazanne :wavey:

bots 29-05-2024 08:59 AM

they are in some circumstances already taking weekend appointments. This is easiest if it doesn't require a senior consultant in attendance. I've attended a hospital appointment at 7pm on a Sunday night .... it came as quite a surprise :laugh:

They can use private resources when they have free slots, but again, i believe they are already doing this. I've always been seen in nhs facilities so i can't say for sure, it probably relates more to the treatment required.

I hear all these bad things about the NHS, and my experience is that GP surgeries are a mess, but, i have found NHS hospitals and staff to be quite wonderful and i have attended 4 hospitals in my region.

It very much depends on your ailment I think, but I can't speak highly enough from my personal experience

joeysteele 29-05-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11457377)
they are in some circumstances already taking weekend appointments. This is easiest if it doesn't require a senior consultant in attendance. I've attended a hospital appointment at 7pm on a Sunday night .... it came as quite a surprise :laugh:

They can use private resources when they have free slots, but again, i believe they are already doing this. I've always been seen in nhs facilities so i can't say for sure, it probably relates more to the treatment required.

I hear all these bad things about the NHS, and my experience is that GP surgeries are a mess, but, i have found NHS hospitals and staff to be quite wonderful and i have attended 4 hospitals in my region.

It very much depends on your ailment I think, but I can't speak highly enough from my personal experience

Very little of that is actually being done.

That's why Steeting intends to invest more innit to make it work faster and effectively.

Plus yes, there's reasonably good areas for the NHS in the Country but most areas are struggling dangerously.
To ignore that and carry on as it is would be more disastrous.

The other thing Wes Streeting needs to get to work on is social care.
To get people back in their homes to free up the hospital beds.
I know he's looking at that.
Which is more than the Cons have in 14 years.
Or the Lib Dems in their 5 years of shared power.
When social care policies were dumped

arista 29-05-2024 09:47 AM

Sunak in Cornwall

He went by train.........................

MTVN 29-05-2024 09:58 AM

There's going to be an ITV debate on Tues at 9pm

arista 29-05-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11457424)
There's going to be an ITV debate on Tues at 9pm


["Sunak v Starmer: The ITV Debate"
will be moderated by journalist Julie Etchingham
and will take place live in front of a studio audience.]


Yes I updated my TV debate thread title

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=391281

arista 29-05-2024 10:40 AM

Starmer and Streeting

Both Live in a West Midlands hospital

all 3 News channels.

Gusto Brunt 29-05-2024 10:45 AM

I've been studying a few of the Labour MPs who will be in the Cabinet if elected as a government,

Wes Streeting impresses me. :)

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He's clearly sharp, and intelligent. THAT is rare among MPs.

He makes that dunce Jeremy Hunt look even more like the dunce he is.:joker:

arista 29-05-2024 10:48 AM

How Nice,
for you Gusto


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