It's a tragedy but sadly the UK has mostly been conditioned to see asylum seekers as vermin less worthy of life than us so there won't be much sympathy for the kid. Maybe if they were a white child the reaction would be different but certainly not for someone from Sudan.

Interesting analogy, is a white wolf a horse?

...this is so, so sad...and that any loved ones in Sudan may never know, breaks my heart...:sad:...we can never imagine the desperation that leads to people risking their lives in the way we see, for a more bearable life and for a future that’s impossible in their home countries...humankind was never built with an equal chance, sadly...nothing will stop lives being risked, I feel...because for some, it’s their only chance of a life to be had, so the risk is worth it because it gives some hope...

Using the word ‘vermin’ to describe human beings to score points must be one of the lowest things I have ever witnessed on this forum

It appears the shovels that were used as paddles accidentally punctured their dinghy, the traffickers win again, poor lad

Again, Cherie, read what I said properly before you get the pitchforks out. You act like I'm trying to score points but twisting my words to make out that I called immigrants vermin is a pure attempt at point scoring on your part.

my reading skills are fine, I see exactly what you said previously

You obviously didn't since you completely twisted what I said to score points. Like, it's literally right there, you can't deny it.

UK Home Secretary Priti Patel said the death of the young migrant was a "brutal reminder" that people smugglers exploit the vulnerable.

Bang On Right

The sad thing is Dezzy.
As what you point out is really sadly accurate.

There has been a conditioning of presenting immigrants and asylum seekers as vermin and undesirable threats to the UK.

It's worrying that in areas of the UK people have appeared to have taken that conditioning on too.

Strong point.

So now right wing racists are going to pretend to care about the lives of refugees, when they’ve spent the past couple of years dehumanising them, it’s never been about traffickers, it’s always been about the foreign, non-white people coming over, they don’t care that they’re being exploited, people like Farage are the worst types of ghouls

not once have i seen immigrants being classified as vermin. People get branded racists when they want the law applied to immigrants and now words are falsely being put in their mouths regarding vermin. That's what's disgusting

Luckily Nigel has brought this to the attention of the nation, he should (and is) be applauded.

His new role as investigative journalist is flourishing




Boris Johnson has said that migrants crossing the Channel is a “very bad and stupid and dangerous and criminal thing to do” as he hinted at changing laws to address the situation.

Just heard on radion 2 that the drowned man had papers on him stating he was 28

not 16

Pretty much, it's very transparent and grotesque. It's never been about traffickers, it's always been about stopping 'undesirables' and in this case, they can't blame immigrants so they try to mask what they want to say by focusing on traffickers.

Traffickers or not, desperate people will do desperate things for a chance of a life free of tyranny. Traffickers are vile exploitative creatures but people dying for a chance at a better life won't be solved by focusing on traffickers. If these people truly cared about asylum seekers, they'd shine more of a light on their plight.

Oh please, you mustn't talk to many people then if you don't think people think of immigrants as lesser humans. It's an all too common attitude.

we gave Sudan £52 million quid the other year to help with people leaving their home

maybe we should focus more on how that was spent

we do more than our bit

An unnecessary death born from a desperate act will always be tragic, regardless of the person's age.

Just because you are ignorant to the fact that they have either directly or indirectly been referred to as 'swarms' 'infestations' or cockroaches does not mean it isn't true.
They have and by some very powerful and influential people, your indignation is misplaced.

...’vermin’ wasn’t used for point scoring in any way..it is how immigrants/asylum seekers have been described...both by Trump in the US and by Katie Hopkins in the U.K, describing families who have fled their war torn home countries to seek refuge and to seek future life..words carry great weight and have great power to influence and to dehumanise, sadly...and some media often support this in their reporting...

It's Friday, it's a new day, it's a sunny and good day to welcome new people! :love:

...:love:...as the lyrics to a My Fair Lady song go...(..an Audrey movie, of course...)...I’ve grown accustomed to your face, wishing welcome each day and I can’t think of a better way to start a day..:flutter:...

The Pew Research Centre estimated that between 800,000 and 1.2 million unauthorised migrants were living in the UK in 2017 so one can imagine what it is now and the impact this has on housing, traffic, and our NHS

Worrying

Yes Capt. Remy's France
needs to stop these Illegals.

Really, the thing you worry about is HOUSING and TRAFFIC?
TRAFFIC? out of all the issues UK has currently? TRAFFIC.
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arista stop downplaying your intelligence. I know you speak French and watch France24 all the time. You're more clever than only blaming France for this "issue".

The crossings will only ramp up until January when we leave the EU and change our laws.

You don’t think air pollution is an issue ..:umm2:

Are you going to build a wall around the island though ? :joker:

Yeah I'm sure the first priority of these "illegals" is to buy a car and drive around the UK before actually getting a visa, a house and a job. But okay.

These are human beings looking for safety we're talking about here, and really having "traffic" these people would cause as an immediate issue is...heartless to say the least.

You know nada about my heart

Most illegals come in the back of a lorry and disappear

Air pollution is the biggest environmental threat to health in the UK, with between 28,000 and 36,000 deaths a year attributed to long-term exposure. There is strong evidence that air pollution causes the development of coronary heart disease, stroke, respiratory disease and lung cancer, and exacerbates asthma.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...bates%20asthma.

These human beings found safety in france yet decided to risk thier lives again by jumping in a tiny dinghy...

The poor lad that risked his life was living rough in Calais for two months and had applied for Asylum in France ....

He was 28
they have now said.

He sadly could not swim.

Quite. However old he is, his blood is on the hands of the French authorities who refuse to do anything about the crossings, and the traffickers taking money from the migrants.