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bots 02-10-2024 06:19 AM

if a country in europe attacked the UK with 200 ballistic missiles, do you think the population would allow the government to let the attack to go unanswered? Of course not

Beso 02-10-2024 09:36 AM

Mass shooting and stabbings in tel Aviv.

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Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2024 09:42 AM

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bots 02-10-2024 10:46 AM

Israel's foreign minister says UN Secretary-General António Guterres is "persona non grata" in Israel, and is barred from entering the country.

Israel Katz says his decision is a response to Guterres' failure to "unequivocally condemn" Iran's missile attack on Israel on Tuesday.

He accuses the UN chief of being "anti-Israel" and giving "support to terrorists, rapists, and murderers. Guterres will be remembered as a stain on the history of the UN for generations to come."

Yesterday, the UN chief condemned "the broadening of the Middle East conflict with escalation after escalation" and called for a ceasefire.

The Slim Reaper 02-10-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11514002)
And it's acknowledged all of the missiles, failed to hit any targets. Only person killed, a passerby. Sad but one death by 'accident' out of the thousands alreayd killed, a pretty good outcome.

But get this, any sane intelligent person would leave it at that, since Iran said this is concluded. But Israel now say they're going to hit back harder. Just LEAVE it. STOP making matters worse.:fist::fist:

That's because Iran only fired at legitimate military targets. Israel has desensitised the world to bombing means at civilians, when they are war crimes.

arista 02-10-2024 12:15 PM

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Yesterday a School was hit in Tel Aviv
last night - Good no one was there.

It is a Holiday for Schools now at this time


SkyNewsHD went inside the Damaged Building

Beso 02-10-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11514116)
That's because Iran only fired at legitimate military targets. Israel has desensitised the world to bombing means at civilians, when they are war crimes.

I take it the school was hit to stop any future soldiers?

user104658 02-10-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11513947)
Were you around when the Shah was over thrown? I doubt it. I was. Have you been involved in middle east security during your employment? I was. Do you still want to lecture and insult me?

Sure.

The first part I don't find particularly relevant, an understanding of the politics and history of a given example does not rest on "being alive at the time". It can offer context and a point of view, obviously; it's not an ace up the sleeve.

As for being involved in middle-east security on an employment/professional level well I'm sorry BOTS but that outright makes banal statements like "you just love terrorists" even more uninsightful and ludicrous.

user104658 02-10-2024 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11514131)
I take it the school was hit to stop any future soldiers?

If reports are to be believed and the Iron Dome held and did its job, then what was struck by debris is irrelevant as it will not have been the target.

If Iran targeted a school and the school was hit, then the Iron Dome failed.

Take your pick both cannot be true. The latter would be a MUCH bigger problem.

Beso 02-10-2024 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11514135)
If reports are to be believed and the Iron Dome held and did its job, then what was struck by debris is irrelevant as it will not have been the target.

If Iran targeted a school and the school was hit, then the Iron Dome failed.

Take your pick both cannot be true. The latter would be a MUCH bigger problem.


..missiles got through, and a school was hit...not by debris..so it was targeted..

user104658 02-10-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11514138)
..missiles got through, and a school was hit...not by debris..so it was targeted..

Then the Iron Dome's limits have been successfully tested by Iran and Israel is in major trouble.

Beso 02-10-2024 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11514156)
Then the Iron Dome's limits have been successfully tested by Iran and Israel is in major trouble.

Iran doesnt have the intelligence to defeat israel.

bots 02-10-2024 02:47 PM

It was the obvious intention to test the domes defensive capability by trying to overwhelm it. The thing is, it's configurable. It's not static. Israel will have learnt stuff too

Also, everyone is saying will Israel take out Iran's oil production or nuclear plants. The first thing they will target is their command and control and missile and ammo storage sites meaning iran will be less capable of repeating similar attacks

Maru 02-10-2024 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11514010)
if a country in europe attacked the UK with 200 ballistic missiles, do you think the population would allow the government to let the attack to go unanswered? Of course not

No, that would probably lead to a WW. Especially if they tried firing this way... Iran and its frens would be toast. Israel is an unfortunate but convenient proxy for all the hatred towards our country and its allies for their own campaigns through the Middle East. Those missiles are like needles being put into a Voo Doo doll... looks superficial, but intended to enact massive karmic damage to its target. "Here's what we want to actually happen to you..."

bots 02-10-2024 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11514134)
Sure.

The first part I don't find particularly relevant, an understanding of the politics and history of a given example does not rest on "being alive at the time". It can offer context and a point of view, obviously; it's not an ace up the sleeve.

As for being involved in middle-east security on an employment/professional level well I'm sorry BOTS but that outright makes banal statements like "you just love terrorists" even more uninsightful and ludicrous.

you really are obnoxious in your responses. You cannot conceive that someone would know more about a subject than you. All you do is jump in and throw slurs. I'm putting you on ignore

The Slim Reaper 02-10-2024 02:51 PM

Israel have been taking out residential buildings in Lebanon. Why haven't you all been crying for the last year, as Israel have been repeatedly and purposefully bombing schools acting as shelters, hospitals, and universities? Only Israel deserves education?

bots 02-10-2024 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11514166)
No, that would probably lead to a WW. Especially if they tried firing this way... Iran and its frens would be toast. Israel is an unfortunate but convenient proxy for all the hatred towards our country and its allies for their own campaigns through the Middle East. Those missiles are like needles being put into a Voo Doo doll... looks superficial, but intended to enact massive karmic damage to its target. "Here's what we want to actually happen to you..."

when someone fires 200 ballistic missiles at you, you are at war. It's that simple. These aren't drones, every one of those missiles is capable of doing enormous damage. Israel's allies aren't even pretending otherwise now, it is war and they are involved because they can't let iran win

The Slim Reaper 02-10-2024 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11514167)
you really are obnoxious in your responses. You cannot conceive that someone would know more about a subject than you. All you do is jump in and throw slurs. I'm putting you on ignore

What are you classing as a slur? You're the only person who has called anyone any names since Niamh warned against it.

arista 02-10-2024 03:02 PM

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The Slim Reaper 02-10-2024 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11514169)
when someone fires 200 ballistic missiles at you, you are at war. It's that simple. These aren't drones, every one of those missiles is capable of doing enormous damage. Israel's allies aren't even pretending otherwise now, it is war and they are involved because they can't let iran win


arista 02-10-2024 03:11 PM

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arista 02-10-2024 03:12 PM

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arista 02-10-2024 03:13 PM

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user104658 02-10-2024 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11514167)
you really are obnoxious in your responses. You cannot conceive that someone would know more about a subject than you. All you do is jump in and throw slurs. I'm putting you on ignore

I'd conceive that you knew anything at all about any subject you like if you demonstrate and evidence that knowledge instead of just insisting that everyone accepts that you know more about it for arbitrary reasons. I have no interest in anything but at least an attempt at a convincing argument. It's a somewhat doomed quest, I know.

user104658 02-10-2024 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11514159)
Iran doesnt have the intelligence to defeat israel.

Do you mean intelligence in terms of military intelligence? Or... Not enough intelligent people? I'm not sure either makes sense really. They don't have the firepower (because Israel's is effectively infinite due to their allies) but that doesnt have anything to do with either variety of intelligence.

Anyway, I didn't mean Israel is in trouble in terms of Iran specifically; their position in the middle East is and always has been precarious, an exposed weakness would be a problem. The press seems to be insistent that no weakness has been exposed but I'll trust you if you're saying differently.


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