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arista 01-04-2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10493095)
Nick Boles?! :o


MP Nick Boles: 'I can no longer sit for this party'

arista 01-04-2019 10:22 PM




Over large BBC breakdown

Rob! 01-04-2019 10:23 PM

Is “Ind” that party that Anna Soubry moved to? Just a handful of them and THEY can’t even ****ing agree.

reece(: 01-04-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10493169)
Is “Ind” that party that Anna Soubry moves to? Just a handful of them and THEY can’t even ****ing agree.

TIG

arista 01-04-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10493169)
Is “Ind” that party that Anna Soubry moves to? Just a handful of them and THEY can’t even ****ing agree.



Yes
they are to be called Change UK Party , soon.

MTVN 01-04-2019 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10493169)
Is “Ind” that party that Anna Soubry moved to? Just a handful of them and THEY can’t even ****ing agree.

It's Independent MPs, not all of them are part of TIG (there are MPs like Frank Field who left Labour but did not join TIG)

TIG all voted together

MTVN 01-04-2019 10:56 PM

What has had the most votes so far?

May's deal :whistle:

reece(: 01-04-2019 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10493185)
What has had the most votes so far?

May's deal :whistle:

The 3rd meaningful vote which did NOT have cabinet abstentions forced upon by the PM? :whistle:

arista 01-04-2019 11:03 PM

Feck Sake they want to do it again 3rd time
on Wednesday?

MTVN 01-04-2019 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10493189)
The 3rd meaningful vote which did NOT have cabinet abstentions forced upon by the PM? :whistle:

Well supporting any of the options is against government policy so the cabinet kinda did need to abstain. I expect there are more cabinet members who would oppose the proposals than support any of them anyway. At least the Tories gave a free vote to the rest of their MPs, it's Labour who whipped on some of these votes

arista 02-04-2019 12:30 AM

Tomorrow
The PM is having a 3 hour meeting with her cabinet
then lunch then another 2 hours.

Ref: Reporter Nick Watt.

Sticks 02-04-2019 03:18 AM

It is now official

We are leaving with no deal next Friday

Rejoice - we will all be filthy rich just like Ree-Smog promised

bots 02-04-2019 06:28 AM

It's hilarious .... it seems mp's will keep voting until someone blinks, yet perish the thought that the people they are supposed to represent get another vote :laugh:

We will leave, or maybe we won't ... whatever the outcome, we will survive, but politics will never be the same again. It's time for a change.

joeysteele 02-04-2019 08:06 AM

It cannot be disputed that these all had more votes against than for obviously.
Some extremely close however.

Most of the Conservative party seem to be just voting against more than for.

However, another point is, the votes against have not also reached the parliamentary total majorities against level of 320+

Unlike the agreement, that for 3 times has been comfortably voted against with more than the 320+ votes needed.

These indicative votes are in effect hung votes.

However without compromise, none are likely to ever pass.
Most of this present Conservative party, also seem unable to compromise and in that, they are just following the extremely bad example made by their present leader.

bots 02-04-2019 08:41 AM

Most of the lib dems voted against both the customs union and the norway option .... tell me that's not playing politics.

Also, the reason labour and many others voted down May's deal was because the back stop potentially tied us to a customs union indefinitely. All the options labour support or put forward include membership of the customs union.

Those supporting a ref, do so because they don't want to leave at all. The whole thing is a disgusting sham.

Nicky91 02-04-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 10493290)
It is now official

We are leaving with no deal next Friday

Rejoice - we will all be filthy rich just like Ree-Smog promised

if u believe that :joker: :joker:

joeysteele 02-04-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10493332)
Most of the lib dems voted against both the customs union and the norway option .... tell me that's not playing politics.

Also, the reason labour and many others voted down May's deal was because the back stop potentially tied us to a customs union indefinitely. All the options labour support or put forward include membership of the customs union.

Those supporting a ref, do so because they don't want to leave at all. The whole thing is a disgusting sham.


That's not totally right.

Labour want a customs arrangement for the whole of the UK.

The withdrawal agreement backstop mainly only applies to N Ireland as a border issue.
Leaving N Ireland different to the rest of the UK.

Hence the DUPs opposition.
They wouldn't be ss bothered if it covered the whole UK

bots 02-04-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10493348)
That's not totally right.

Labour want a customs arrangement for the whole of the UK.

The withdrawal agreement backstop mainly only applies to N Ireland as a border issue.
Leaving N Ireland different to the rest of the UK.

Hence the DUPs opposition.
They wouldn't be ss bothered if it covered the whole UK

the point being that if Northern Ireland is to remain an integrated part of the UK, with no customs control with the Republic, it brings a customs union to the mainland UK by default

Rob! 02-04-2019 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 10493290)
It is now official

We are leaving with no deal next Friday

Rejoice - we will all be filthy rich just like Ree-Smog promised

Where has this been confirmed? Nowhere I think you’ll find.

arista 02-04-2019 10:15 AM

With the Customs Union
we can not trade with the World
And it means Freedom of Movement.

Its wrong to want them
as the 2016 Vote was won on stopping those 2 points.

The PM having 5 hours of internal meetings today
a Solution must be given tonight
or its 5 hours wasted................................

joeysteele 02-04-2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10493355)
the point being that if Northern Ireland is to remain an integrated part of the UK, with no customs control with the Republic, it brings a customs union to the mainland UK by default

Yes but that's what the DUP won't back this for because it leaves open if no other arrangement can be agreed.
That backstop could leave N Ireland in the backstop but not the rest of the UK.

It's why they're against as it could leave N Ireland in a different arrangement to the rest of the UK.
They wouldn't be against it otherwise.

Labour want a permanent customs union arrangement for the whole of the UK.
That's why they rightly oppose the agreement.

For me, I'd vote for the May/EU agreement.
Just to start to move forward.

Being flippant here too, anything usually the DUP bigots are against, I'd more often than not be for.

The Slim Reaper 02-04-2019 12:46 PM

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKCN1R114E

LONDON (Reuters) - Assets worth around a trillion pounds are moving from London to hubs in the European Union ahead of Brexit, with the parallel shift in jobs likely to top 7,000, consultants EY said on Wednesday.

Banks, asset managers and insurers in London are opening or expanding hubs in the EU to avoid disruption from Britain’s departure from the European Union.

Britain is legally due to leave next week, but the British government is asking Brussels for a delay.

In its latest Brexit Tracker, EY said that 23 companies have announced the transfer of about a trillion pounds in assets, up from 800 billion pounds in the last quarter.

Dublin remains the most popular destination for relocations, with 28 companies saying they have plans to set up shop there, but Frankfurt, Luxembourg and Paris are catching up, with between 21 and 18 firms.

“As 29 March draws nearer, companies are reconfirming or revising the statements they have made about the extent of staff and operational changes they are making, but we are not seeing many last-minute surprises - firms are executing their plans as expected,” EY said in a statement.





£41m/hr since the brexit vote for those still insisting it's a good thing for the country that we sacrifice our financial wellbeing in order to prevent a few Polish families joining us.

user104658 02-04-2019 02:13 PM

FFS if 55% of Scottish people hadn't been clinging to mummy's coat-tails, Glasgow and Edinburgh would be getting the bulk of that London cash right now. :hmph:

Tom4784 02-04-2019 02:30 PM

Parliament need to stop fearing a few ignorant racists in their constituencies and just pick a deal or option to vote for.

I'm of the wrathful opinion that the ignorant masses calling for no deal need to have their faces into the **** they so desperately crave but let's be real, if we go with no deal or no plan in place then we are ****ed.

People want our economy to burn because they hate immigrants. It's dumb af.

arista 02-04-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10493489)
Parliament need to stop fearing a few ignorant racists in their constituencies and just pick a deal or option to vote for.

I'm of the wrathful opinion that the ignorant masses calling for no deal need to have their faces into the **** they so desperately crave but let's be real, if we go with no deal or no plan in place then we are ****ed.

People want our economy to burn because they hate immigrants. It's dumb af.


Dezzy I voted to Leave the EU
I ain't no racist

Its is not as simple as you think.


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