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Lostie! 28-08-2017 03:21 PM

So I spent the whole season saying "yeah I'll catch up this week" and never did, but at least now I have a whole season to binge all at once (even if I've already read everything that happened :laugh:)

user104658 28-08-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9594157)
That would be a lot more reasonable. Not sure where I got 2 years from [emoji23]

I think there was a murmur of "might be 2019" at one point, although I think even that was about early 2019 so more like 18 months from now than two full years. But I think mid September / early October 2018 is probably a realistic guess, with the finale then being late October / early November.

Shaun 28-08-2017 05:38 PM

We may not have to settle for Brienne/Jaime after all!!!!!!!


Smithy 28-08-2017 10:38 PM

TV Ratings: 'Game of Thrones' Finale Hits Record High with 16.5 Million Viewers

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...iewers-1032897

Smashed its own records rating again (unsurprisingly)

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 29-08-2017 12:52 AM

are we all in agreement that cerslay won that episode

RileyH 29-08-2017 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by That Girl (Post 9595074)
are we all in agreement that cerslay won that episode

Agreed :clap1:

Locke. 29-08-2017 12:54 AM

Yeah, she secured a certain death for next season and lost the only truly loyal person she had left all in one episode, a masterclass.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 29-08-2017 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 9595076)
Yeah, she secured a certain death for next season and lost the only truly loyal person she had left all in one episode, a masterclass.

still the most entertaining character tho!!

Brother Leon 29-08-2017 01:39 AM

Lena Heady needs some awards though. She's been awesome for 7 seasons now.

_Tom_ 29-08-2017 02:12 AM

What a masterpiece to end the season :love:

user104658 29-08-2017 06:52 AM

Just had a thought about Jaime... Presumably he's heading to North to join the fight now, as he was adamant that he had pledged to do so and wasn't going to back out even if it was just him on his own, so he'll be headed for Winterfell...

... Are they going to accept him with open arms, given that the last time he was there, he pushed Bran out of a window in an attempted murder that paralysed him from the waist down? :think:

I mean... Yeah... Littlefinger manipulated the war by setting up the Lannisters as having tried to kill Bran by assassin. However... That sort of overlooks the fact that a Lannister did ACTUALLY try to kill Bran, for the same reasons, a short time earlier :joker:.

I guess he'll make a convincing case for himself and Brienne and Tyrion will vouch for him. Plus Bran will probs be all "beep bop boop I can see he is genuine beep boopy boop and I like being paralysed anyway".

bots 29-08-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9595117)
Just had a thought about Jaime... Presumably he's heading to North to join the fight now, as he was adamant that he had pledged to do so and wasn't going to back out even if it was just him on his own, so he'll be headed for Winterfell...

... Are they going to accept him with open arms, given that the last time he was there, he pushed Bran out of a window in an attempted murder that paralysed him from the waist down? :think:

I mean... Yeah... Littlefinger manipulated the war by setting up the Lannisters as having tried to kill Bran by assassin. However... That sort of overlooks the fact that a Lannister did ACTUALLY try to kill Bran, for the same reasons, a short time earlier :joker:.

I guess he'll make a convincing case for himself and Brienne and Tyrion will vouch for him. Plus Bran will probs be all "beep bop boop I can see he is genuine beep boopy boop and I like being paralysed anyway".

logic would suggest that he suffer the same fate as the other chap recently given that he basically wiped out the Stark household when they were at Kings landing which led to their fathers execution. Also he did kill the mad king, so he isnt going to be a favourite with Dany either :joker: He is going to have to pull something big out the bag to compensate for that ... one would think it would have to involve betrayal of Cersei

Niamh. 29-08-2017 10:12 AM

Great finale, thank god they didn't ruin Arya and Sansa, that was perfect, time for Little finger to die.

I had a thought about the Prince that was promised prophecy, apparently he/she needs to forge a sword from fire and the blood of someone he loves so my guess is either Jon will have to kill Dany to make the sword that defeats the night king or Dany will have to kill Jon. GRRM has said the end will be bitter sweet....

Smithy 29-08-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 9595076)
Yeah, she secured a certain death for next season and lost the only truly loyal person she had left all in one episode, a masterclass.

Literally going to say this :joker: she's the only person that's now 100% going to die next year

user104658 29-08-2017 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9595172)
logic would suggest that he suffer the same fate as the other chap recently given that he basically wiped out the Stark household when they were at Kings landing which led to their fathers execution. Also he did kill the mad king, so he isnt going to be a favourite with Dany either :joker:

I dunno, he's not really like Littlefinger. For one, he didn't want Ned to be executed, he had a lot of respect for him and although he brought him in, he believed that Ned was going to be forced to "bend the knee" and make some sort of public statement - he was visibly horrified when bloodthirsty little Joffrey was like "LOL off with his head". All of the Lannisters were shocked, actually. I mean, Tyrion was still a full-blood Lannister at the time, too, and they all seem to be OK with him.

As for being Kingslayer, Daenerys is pretty accepting of the fact that her father was insane and brutal and would probably accept that his death was for the good of the kingdom. She also never knew him personally (was just a baby at the time) so there's no real emotional connection.

He also didn't particularly like the Red Wedding iirc and felt it was sort of "cheating" to not face Rob in battle.

In terms of morality (incest aside, heh) he's been pretty much "good" throughout... just on the "wrong side". Except like I said... he did push little Bran out of a window... :umm2:...

Niamh. 29-08-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9595331)
I dunno, he's not really like Littlefinger. For one, he didn't want Ned to be executed, he had a lot of respect for him and although he brought him in, he believed that Ned was going to be forced to "bend the knee" and make some sort of public statement - he was visibly horrified when bloodthirsty little Joffrey was like "LOL off with his head". All of the Lannisters were shocked, actually. I mean, Tyrion was still a full-blood Lannister at the time, too, and they all seem to be OK with him.

As for being Kingslayer, Daenerys is pretty accepting of the fact that her father was insane and brutal and would probably accept that his death was for the good of the kingdom. She also never knew him personally (was just a baby at the time) so there's no real emotional connection.

He also didn't particularly like the Red Wedding iirc and felt it was sort of "cheating" to not face Rob in battle.

In terms of morality (incest aside, heh) he's been pretty much "good" throughout... just on the "wrong side". Except like I said... he did push little Bran out of a window... :umm2:...

That's kind of a big thing :laugh: Did Bran actually remember that he pushed him in the end? My recollection of all that is fuzzy now. I mean do they all know that he was the one who did that? (Bran probably does now either way with his warging skills)

Locke. 29-08-2017 10:57 AM

I doubt Bran will even care any more. Like what Meera said to him, he's not really Bran anymore. He'll probably just feel the same way about that as he does about any other bad event he witnesses in his visions. Either way, Jaime's there to help and they've been begging for people to help so they're not going to start killing those that turn up to do so

user104658 29-08-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9595337)
That's kind of a big thing :laugh: Did Bran actually remember that he pushed him in the end? My recollection of all that is fuzzy now. I mean do they all know that he was the one who did that? (Bran probably does now either way with his warging skills)

He didn't remember or tell anyone about it before becoming the three-eyed raven I guess... they mostly thought it was an accident. Though I'm sure I remember Ned guessing that the Lannisters had tried to assassinate Bran to cover up "something he had seen" and inferred that he (Ned) knew about Cersei and Jaime. But I'm sure it was his guesswork rather than Bran having said anything. And of course, the Lannisters weren't even behind the assassination attempt.

But yeah, obviously Bran will know what happened now, as he knows everything apparently. However since he's not "really Bran" any more, he might speak to Jaime in private, tell him that he knows what happened but that it doesn't matter / that Jaime has a role to play, and then he won't tell anyone else?

Niamh. 29-08-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 9595342)
I doubt Bran will even care any more. Like what Meera said to him, he's not really Bran anymore. He'll probably just feel the same way about that as he does about any other bad event he witnesses in his visions. Either way, Jaime's there to help and they've been begging for people to help so they're not going to start killing those that turn up to do so

I suppose if they forgive Theon (ish) then they''ll forgive Jaime too

user104658 29-08-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 9595342)
I doubt Bran will even care any more. Like what Meera said to him, he's not really Bran anymore. He'll probably just feel the same way about that as he does about any other bad event he witnesses in his visions. Either way, Jaime's there to help and they've been begging for people to help so they're not going to start killing those that turn up to do so

True, especially someone who is probably the best military strategist left in Westeros... Tyrion will likely plead that case for him, Dany will insist that he bend the knee and declare her his queen, he'll be all conflicted about that for a few mins but then he'll remember that Cersei is bat**** crazy and do it.

And then as he seems to now take his oaths quite seriously, he'll have to kill Cersei to protect Daenerys, fulfilling the prophesy of the little brother killing her. Hmmm.

Although I just read an interesting theory about how Cersei will die. The prophesy that says "little brother" will kill her also states that she will have three children who will die... but now she's pregnant. So the theory is, she is pregnant with a boy (a "little brother" to her three children who are now dead) and she will die in childbirth, like her mother did giving birth to Tyrion, therefore being "killed by the little brother", and poetic as a huge part of her bitterness is in blaming Tyrion for her own mother's death.

MTVN 29-08-2017 11:05 AM

There was no requirement for the Lannister's to submit to Daenarys when they accepted the offer of help so they can't really demand anything from Jaime or punish him when he's the only Lannister who has actually honoured the agreement

Niamh. 29-08-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9595279)
Great finale, thank god they didn't ruin Arya and Sansa, that was perfect, time for Little finger to die.

I had a thought about the Prince that was promised prophecy, apparently he/she needs to forge a sword from fire and the blood of someone he loves so my guess is either Jon will have to kill Dany to make the sword that defeats the night king or Dany will have to kill Jon. GRRM has said the end will be bitter sweet....

Seriously though, this is going to be how it ends, isn't it? :bawling:

Scarlett. 29-08-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9595351)
True, especially someone who is probably the best military strategist left in Westeros... Tyrion will likely plead that case for him, Dany will insist that he bend the knee and declare her his queen, he'll be all conflicted about that for a few mins but then he'll remember that Cersei is bat**** crazy and do it.

And then as he seems to now take his oaths quite seriously, he'll have to kill Cersei to protect Daenerys, fulfilling the prophesy of the little brother killing her. Hmmm.

Although I just read an interesting theory about how Cersei will die. The prophesy that says "little brother" will kill her also states that she will have three children who will die... but now she's pregnant. So the theory is, she is pregnant with a boy (a "little brother" to her three children who are now dead) and she will die in childbirth, like her mother did giving birth to Tyrion, therefore being "killed by the little brother", and poetic as a huge part of her bitterness is in blaming Tyrion for her own mother's death.

It'd be great if that prophecy turned out to be false, and that Cersei's reaction to it had just created a self fulfilling prophecy all along.

bots 29-08-2017 01:29 PM

i have a feeling that it could come full circle with Jamie again being the slayer, killing Cersei and returning Dany and or Jon to the throne

user104658 29-08-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9595510)
i have a feeling that it could come full circle with Jamie again being the slayer, killing Cersei and returning Dany and or Jon to the throne

I was thinking that, but more with him NOT wanting to be king slayer again. I think he will swear an oath to Daenerys (or at this point, once all the Targ stuff comes out, Jon?) and then he'll be faced with a choice towards the end; kill the king/queen he's now sworn to or go with family loyalty. And I think he would choose not to "kingslay" again and off Cersei or, at least, not step in to save her.


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