Sorry I don't understand you when you're trolling.

its easier to answer the question than to deflect, you have already tried that tack and failed

I am not the one posting links from...the canary


you are

ok

How even the left wing New Statesman describes The Canary:

The Canary. Yes, those click-thirsty conspiracy mongers over on the alt left “news” site


http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...-jeremy-corbyn


alt-left click bait is not needed on Tibb thanks

Police now confirm 58 dead

this gradual drip drip of death toll aint going to play well

I don't think it's deliberate, the integrity of the building is an issue, and I would imagine sifting through the debris is painstakingly slow ?

i just wish they would say "look we have 58 bodies confirmed dead. We still have 70 missing so they are deffo dead too so that is 128 dead give or take"?

That made for a good read LT. It is annoying when people only post from the same two papers as if they are some kind of legal document that can't be challenged, especially when they criticise the sources of others - demonstrating an almost obsessive distain for one paper in particular.

The Independent and the Canary are just left-leaning papers with not only an opinion, but more importantly - an AGENDA. Their word is not gospel.

I agree here,it will be a slow process if it is to be done properly,If it's rushed and something or someone is missed people will be up in arms again,let the services do their jobs ffs.:wavey:

The firefighters only managed to get to the 12th floor

The baby was thrown from the 9th floor, has anyone heard whether the mother survived?

I think it was the 5th floor

Bereaved families need justice - lawyer


A rally has been taking place in Buchanan Street in Glasgow in support of the people of Grenfell Tower.

Human rights lawyer Aamer Anwar told the crowds: "The bereaved families need truth, accountability and justice.

"I demand arrests, a criminal trial before a judge and jury... those responsible should be incarcerated for murder.

"It's not a tragedy, it's a crime. The people in Grenfell died because they were poor."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-en...ondon-40239008

The Police Chief
in charge has said he does not care why
some have not contacted him ,
that they are out of the building
but he has asked again please contact them.


Ref : LBC

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/381846...r-lift-button/

does anyone know why the fridge guy did not try to put out the fire or call for immediate help (if indeed reports are to be believed)?

They said he did contact the Fire Dept
and they came
putting out his internal fire
but as his faulty fridge was next to the Window
the Fire on the outside cladding was on the way


Ref: a BBC report.

pretty damning evidence against the cladding if so

http://e3.365dm.com/17/06/536x302/6d...20170617165754
The group of residents was
brought together by Graham Tomlin,
the Bishop of Kensington,
went to Downing Street


PM: Support for Grenfell fire victims 'was not good enough'
http://news.sky.com/story/may-meets-...treet-10918431

Good for them

sadly, it wont be long till the ALT.LEFT will hijack Grenfell

i would imagine the Socialist Worker placard printer will be already on overtime

disgusting

LT are you deliberately trying to be Alex Jones?

The lady from the One show?

The fire was put out according to the neighbour opposite, I guess as the flammable material was at the centre of the cladding it was burning unnoticed for a while


Philip Hammond claims the cladding used is banned in the U.K., so two questions why was it sold in such a large quantity and why did building regs sign off on it ..

Yes the Flames
climbing the Building at a Angle
due to the slight wind

I saw a video of the firemen tackling the original fire..they were outside the property firing water up at the window but it was hitting below the flames which were climbing upwards...i cant find the video anywhere now...funny that. Unfortunatly it looked like a botched effort at fire figuting.