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user104658 18-05-2023 11:54 AM

Full medical transition means permanent involvement of medical services in your life. Maybe this will change as medical technology progresses - who knows - but currently, that is the situation. I don't think that is really made clear enough at all to those seeking to transition. I'm sure for the mostpart it is at the point of ACTIVELY being with those services, but by that point people are often so far down that route that they socially and psychologically have little option but to continue. It needs to be makde clear and honest to all from the outset; people end up with severe medical injury from transition surgeries with poor outcomes, and even the ones with good outcomes have permanent medical consequences. Even worse if maintenance exercises are not done regularly -- and in a community with high rates of poor mental health and depression, the risk of letting that slide is HIGH.

GoldHeart 18-05-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11292609)
As regards this topic a very knowledgeable friend of ours said that many of ‘bodily changes’ are indeed reversible BUT alarmingly nothing brain related is reversible !!

Frightening


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I don't trust anyone who claims it's ' reversible ' , even some so called medical professionals are making questionable statements. I'm no expert...but once someone takes testosterone,I can't see how that could be reversed?. I've seen grown adult detransioners who have permanently had their voices altered due to the medication ,and they've suffered hair loss . There's nothing they can do about it . And that's grown adults. So can you imagine the damages to under 18's and minors !.

The brain is probably one of the most important organs in our body ,once that's screwed up ... that's it . Of course they won't tell people. But if you do research , you'll see that brain swelling is a risk aswell as other problems. I heard that one of the drugs they use on transgender patients.... has a ton of dangerous side effects.

user104658 18-05-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11292618)
I don't trust anyone who claims it's ' reversible ' , even some so called medical professionals are making questionable statements. I'm no expert...but once someone takes testosterone,I can't see how that could be reversed?. I've seen grown adult detransioners who have permanently had their voices altered due to the medication ,and they've suffered hair loss . There's nothing they can do about it . And that's grown adults. So can you imagine the damages to under 18's and minors !.

The brain is probably one of the most important organs in our body ,once that's screwed up ... that's it . Of course they won't tell people. But if you do research , you'll see that brain swelling is a risk aswell as other problems. I heard that one of the drugs they use on transgender patients.... has a ton of dangerous side effects.

The physical effects of HRT testosterone on female bodies are not reversible... there's a reason that (to be blunt) trans men on HRT "pass" far more easily than most trans women. Removing testosterone/adding female HRT doesn't reverse those effects.

Trans women who have been on HRT can have a lot of it reversed by stopping it/adding testosterone instead and can hormonally detransition. You can remove implants etc. Obviously, any body part removed surgically is permanent.

GoldHeart 18-05-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11292621)
The physical effects of HRT testosterone on female bodies are not reversible... there's a reason that (to be blunt) trans men on HRT "pass" far more easily than most trans women. Removing testosterone/adding female HRT doesn't reverse those effects.

Trans women who have been on HRT can have a lot of it reversed by stopping it/adding testosterone instead and can hormonally detransition. You can remove implants etc. Obviously, any body part removed surgically is permanent.


Yeah it's definitely more difficult to reverse FTM effects regarding testosterone . But I've seen MTF ...who have detransioned or tried to ,and they're still suffering from medical injuries/ complications and problems. Not to mention their mental health aswell.

So both have their risks . And people should be honest , Instead of dressing it up as some quick solution fairytale.

Zizu 18-05-2023 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11292609)
As regards this topic a very knowledgeable friend of ours said that MANY of the ‘bodily changes’ are indeed reversible BUT alarmingly nothing brain related is reversible !!

Frightening


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The key word in my response was MANY


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Liam- 20-05-2023 08:50 PM



Well would you look at that, the ‘we can always tell’ crowd, as it predictable turns out, can’t always tell, I am shocked

Mystic Mock 21-05-2023 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11293434)


Well would you look at that, the ‘we can always tell’ crowd, as it predictable turns out, can’t always tell, I am shocked

I honestly don't get how the Police can't tell that it's a woman that looks a bit Tomboy-ish.:laugh:

arista 23-05-2023 06:09 AM

BBC News Text:
[Staff at the Equalities Watchdog,
the Equality and Human Rights Commission,
have been accused of trying to oust chairwoman
Baroness Falkner
over her stance on transgender issues.
The paper says a dossier of more
than 40 complaints against
the peer has been compiled
but that some within the organisation think
she is being targeted because she
"backed legal reforms guarding the right
of biological women in single-sex space
such as hospital wards and toilets".]

https://www.ihrc.org.uk/wp-content/u...-Launch-04.jpg
[Baroness Falkner]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...il-nc.png.webp

Oliver_W 23-05-2023 08:54 AM

So now not even equality workers are allowed to stand up fow women's rights?

Liam- 23-05-2023 03:59 PM


Mystic Mock 24-05-2023 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11294044)

He has only been sentenced to two years in Prison?:shocked:

God you can get more for Drug offences.:joker:

Zizu 24-05-2023 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11294127)
He has only been sentenced to two years in Prison?:shocked:

God you can get more for Drug offences.:joker:


Plus he will presumably serve less than a year behind bars ..


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user104658 24-05-2023 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11294127)
He has only been sentenced to two years in Prison?:shocked:

God you can get more for Drug offences.:joker:

That's because if you actually read it, this is a story about violent drug-induced psychosis and not a transphobic attack. Trying to use it as an example of transphobia is a huuuuuuuuuge stretch :umm2:.

thesheriff443 24-05-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11294146)
That's because if you actually read it, this is a story about violent drug-induced psychosis and not a transphobic attack. Trying to use it as an example of transphobia is a huuuuuuuuuge stretch :umm2:.

It had the word trans in the story so it’s close enough surly

Beso 24-05-2023 08:02 AM

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/and...ottish-borders

Crimson Dynamo 29-05-2023 08:59 AM

seems the hateful transmob are looking for war. Hyde Park at weekend

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...eg?imwidth=960

user104658 29-05-2023 09:20 AM

LOL, those little red and yellow cars are nowhere NEAR sturdy enough to handle the recoil of an M134 Minigun. Daft! They haven't thought this through AT ALL the vibrations alone would rattle it to bits! No consideration for the child's safety whatsoever. Typical.

Crimson Dynamo 29-05-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11295720)
LOL, those little red and yellow cars are nowhere NEAR sturdy enough to handle the recoil of an M134 Minigun. Daft! They haven't thought this through AT ALL the vibrations alone would rattle it to bits! No consideration for the child's safety whatsoever. Typical.

note the lack of proper storage for the dynamite and also the inclusion of a cricket bat

no one is telling me a "trans kid" is a cricket fan

user104658 29-05-2023 09:27 AM

:joker: I didn't notice the bat. Imagine being the last kid to turn up.

"OH the massive unfathomable destructive potential of the playhouse howitzer artillery cannon is already taken. I guess I'll just have this wooden bat! Cheers!"

Zizu 29-05-2023 10:54 AM

The war on transgender
 
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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11295720)
LOL, those little red and yellow cars are nowhere NEAR sturdy enough to handle the recoil of an M134 Minigun. Daft! They haven't thought this through AT ALL the vibrations alone would rattle it to bits! No consideration for the child's safety whatsoever. Typical.


Yeah and the doors are shockingly poor quality as well - not to mention that the paint job gets easily bleached by the sun’s rays


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DemolitionRed 29-05-2023 01:15 PM

First one has to ask themselves why the backlash against Trans/gender ideology is growing?
I'd compare it to extreme feminism, where the more we give them a voice, the louder that voice gets, before they start stamping their feet and demanding.

The majority of Trans/alternative gender people just quietly get on with their life, whilst a minority are being given a voice to shout from the rooftops. An example if this is drag show story time for children. Another example is the insistence that we all use these ridiculous pronouns so we don't offend.
This small majority are making life hell for the Trans/alternative gender who would like to be accepted whilst quietly getting on with life.

Beso 29-05-2023 02:57 PM

Quietly getting on with their life...lol, that's a laugh!

DemolitionRed 29-05-2023 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11295891)
Quietly getting on with their life...lol, that's a laugh!

So do you believe all Trans/diverse people are loud and shouting for their rights? That would make all Trans/diverse people the same surely?

Beso 29-05-2023 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 11295895)
So do you believe all Trans/diverse people are loud and shouting for their rights? That would make all Trans/diverse people the same surely?

Well I know the male to female sex change ones need to insert things daily into the wound, they decided to give themselves, to stop the body naturally healing the said wound. Adding that to the discomfort of pubic hairs growing inside you from the bits they used to make your new wound...To me, just does not sound like peacefully getting on with your life.:shrug:

DemolitionRed 29-05-2023 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11295904)
Well I know the male to female sex change ones need to insert things daily into the wound, they decided to give themselves, to stop the body naturally healing the said wound. Adding that to the discomfort of pubic hairs growing inside you from the bits they used to make your new wound...To me, just does not sound like peacefully getting on with your life.:shrug:

I'm talking loud, demanding, in your face types. Ones that demand women are called "womb carriers" or "menstruators" so delicate ego's don't get offended.
I don't know, or want to know what they insert into themselves, but as long as they do that in privacy and not publicly, that's okay with me.


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