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Cherie 10-03-2024 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11424371)
I'm talking about the fa t that people were ignoring the clear signs of image manipulation even AFTER they were pointed out! Hilarious stuff if it wasn't so worrying.

you are acting like photos are never touched up....:shrug: why is it worrying, it appears you are the only one that is worried :laugh:

user104658 10-03-2024 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11424173)
Possibly they took burst shots and merged portions where that person had a slightly more ideal pose or expression. Very common in professional photography. I think we saw evidence of this before in their past family shots. Seeing as people clearly overanalyze their photos, they care very much what impression it leaves.. so it is a little bit less about the tricks involved because as we know these shots are typically creatively adjusted. Edit: For me it always seemed about capturing their family charm, maybe not capturing the "perfect" well-behaved family.. because it is not like kids sit still for photos.

It could also be a Patch tool and Clone brush either not checked against every edge to be sure it is seamless. Maybe a simpler error in cleaning up ugly folds or seams. (I haven't looked that closely, I have a headcold)

They're royals, celebrities, whatever... They're going to do fussy things to their images. One of the US mags did the weird head/body replacement thing (I forget which) on Harry that one photoshoot for a magazine where he was standing with Meghan. That one was really obvious, but you would be surprised people don't notice because these are done so often in the US in magazine covers. They usually just look like they have a stiff neck posture with an OTT facial expression, but something feels off..

So it is very common to pull portions of shots from the same shoot and replace elements in the final. Including an entire person's head because they had a better expression in the other one. Sometimes it looks fine. Other times it looks like the person is Frankensteined. But many people in Hollywood like to brush themselves up and Frankenstein their looks, so it usually just looks on brand and the average person won't notice..

If you genuinely believe that this is a picture that was taken recently of the four of them together, Maru, I have a fine selection of exquisite chocolate teapots you might be interested in buying.

Like I said guessing at why they've mocked up a fake photo to release is pure speculation but at this point only an absolute fool would believe that this is a picture that was taken of Kate recently and if she looks 25% as healthy when she does actually emerge I'll be amazed. I'm not wishing ill on her, I'm just flabbergasted at the sheer contempt that's being shown for the public by expecting them to believe that this is a real recent photograph.

They should just have stuck to their guns and released nothing at all.

user104658 10-03-2024 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11424373)
you are acting like photos are never touched up....:shrug: why is it worrying, it appears you are the only one that is worried :laugh:

Just little old me and three separate international press fact-checking organisations :laugh:. Ffs.

user104658 10-03-2024 10:16 PM

It's not touched up. It is fake. Fake news. Again the "Why" is unknown.

Jordan. 10-03-2024 10:17 PM

Who is worried about a (second) manipulated photo of a woman who hasn't been seen in public for months? Not her biggest lovies clearly.

thesheriff443 10-03-2024 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11424351)
its not a one size fits all Sherriff :laugh: many women feel robbed of the chance to have another child, some are happy they will never have to have one again....thats life as they say

I never said it was one size fits all we don’t even know if Kate had a hysterectomy

user104658 10-03-2024 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11424385)
Who is worried about a (second) manipulated photo of a woman who hasn't been seen in public for months? Not her biggest lovies clearly.

Tbf I'm not actually worried about that - I just think she's iller than they're letting on for whatever reason. Which is a shame but :shrug: people get ill.

I'm worried about the painfully low critical thinking ability of the great British public as represented by the Tibb microcosm.

UserSince2005 10-03-2024 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11424354)
For clarity - this is a notification from The Associated Press to media providers that they should not publish the above photo of Kate + children, because it has been altered (i.e. it is fake, which should have been painfully obvious to anyone not sporting their rose-tinted royal specs)

Omg god they are actually just bare faced lying to us. WHERE IS KATE!

Mystic Mock 10-03-2024 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11424379)
If you genuinely believe that this is a picture that was taken recently of the four of them together, Maru, I have a fine selection of exquisite chocolate teapots you might be interested in buying.

Like I said guessing at why they've mocked up a fake photo to release is pure speculation but at this point only an absolute fool would believe that this is a picture that was taken of Kate recently and if she looks 25% as healthy when she does actually emerge I'll be amazed. I'm not wishing ill on her, I'm just flabbergasted at the sheer contempt that's being shown for the public by expecting them to believe that this is a real recent photograph.

They should just have stuck to their guns and released nothing at all.

I agree with you TS.

I am concerned by the fact that she has been quiet for so long, especially given this photo scenario that's now happened.

Maru 10-03-2024 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11424190)
Maru dont ruin the thread with sense and factual stuff

:oh:

Heh. I am not the kind of person to care about convincing anyone because usually I expect the total and complete opposite of that. I saw an opportunity to nerd out and I took it :love: Also, I feel like crap

Mystic Mock 11-03-2024 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11424435)
Heh. I am not the kind of person to care about convincing anyone because usually I expect the total and complete opposite of that. I saw an opportunity to nerd out and I took it :love: Also, I feel like crap

There's nothing wrong with Nerdvana.:dance:

Especially with our hit singles Smells Like Geek Spirit and Smart As You Are

bots 11-03-2024 01:49 AM

In image manipulation, there is a big difference from applying filters and such to improve/enhance the subject and cropping and pasting. The image from the palace has been cropped and pasted. Kate is a photographer that takes great pride in the official pictures that she produces, do people really think she would approve of a picture that had been put together like a poor jigsaw gone wrong? There is not just one reason why this picture is a concern, there are loads of them, and given the circumstances it was published in it raises more questions than it answers. Now, the palace have reverted to their "no comment", raising the speculation even further.

( As an aside, Prince Andrew has been warning about fake pictures for a while :laugh: )

UserSince2005 11-03-2024 02:30 AM

There’s definitely something majorly wrong going on

bots 11-03-2024 02:52 AM

4 news agencies have pulled the photo now including AP, Reuters, and Getty images.

This was a big mistake by the palace

Maru 11-03-2024 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11424447)
In image manipulation, there is a big difference from applying filters and such to improve/enhance the subject and cropping and pasting. The image from the palace has been cropped and pasted. Kate is a photographer that takes great pride in the official pictures that she produces, do people really think she would approve of a picture that had been put together like a poor jigsaw gone wrong? There is not just one reason why this picture is a concern, there are loads of them, and given the circumstances it was published in it raises more questions than it answers. Now, the palace have reverted to their "no comment", raising the speculation even further.

( As an aside, Prince Andrew has been warning about fake pictures for a while :laugh: )

She may not be looking that hard into anything since technically she's not even supposed to be working. I mean that would be my casual assumption?

I'm much more amused it's taken this long for this much of the public to realize the depth of image manipulation that goes on. Beyond just Liquify and noticeably wavey backgrounds around mysteriously tightened waistlines, etc. Compositing portraits is also a thing. It's usually necessary for landscapes in order for the background and skies to match correctly (requires 2+ shots at different exposure)... and is what HDR is meant to accomplish. This isn't a problem with portraits unless the lighting is setup poorly.

More surprised the royals would do it so blatantly since it is such tacky thing that celebrities do in America. They really don't need to try to copy Hollywood :laugh:

I think this lends more weight to the criticism against Wills & Kate trying to be more glamorous akin to that demographic. They should just come out with the individual images and explain "We took this hand from here because that version looked better" "Charlottes hair was wrong in this place here so we cropped that so that it fit better creatively". Just be freaking honest. I do photo-manipulations too, so I get it, but it's not so good to do it for portraits unless one has a good reason... like I actually do understand changing out a face if the posture is literally magical in another shot. I've never had to do it, but I can see a reason if the vision for that person is just too perfect. Or it could be that just every shot had something terribly wrong going on with it. It should have a good reason, but this just looks like it was overthought and obviously controversial for a high profile figure (as in very relevant figures) anyway to be replacing details or clone-brushing away features and replacing with a different shot. It's a thing that we do do here, but they really shouldn't for such intimate subjects.

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11424450)
4 news agencies have pulled the photo now including AP, Reuters, and Getty images.

This was a big mistake by the palace

They've learned their lesson then. I wonder if they rushed this portrait because of all the noise and this is the result... very sad.

arista 11-03-2024 04:10 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...-0001.jpg.webp

arista 11-03-2024 04:17 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...-0001.jpg.webp

arista 11-03-2024 04:21 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/03...0121023012.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ll-orders.html

[Pressure on Palace to reveal truth about
Kate's Mother's Day photo: Picture is 'killed'
by top agencies around world over claims first
image of Princess since her surgery has
been 'manipulated' - as fans point
to 'errors' which 'prove it has been edited']

arista 11-03-2024 05:15 AM


arista 11-03-2024 06:12 AM

The Palace has now confirmed,
Prince William took the photo.

He is out and about today
Commonwealth gig


Ref: GMBHD itv

Cherie 11-03-2024 06:14 AM

'I don't know how many times this needs to be said but if Kate is ill, and she wants to keep it private that is 100 per cent her business, we do not own her or have any right to her medical issues, its interesting that none of those 'worried' about her have responded to my post about the pressure that has been piled on Kate for the last few years especially from someone she was once very close to

Cherie 11-03-2024 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11424386)
I never said it was one size fits all we don’t even know if Kate had a hysterectomy


well you randomly commented that both your sisters are fine? and I did say IF in my post

arista 11-03-2024 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11424476)
'I don't know how many times this needs to be said but if Kate is ill, and she wants to keep it private that is 100 per cent her business, we do not own her or have any right to her medical issues, its interesting that none of those 'worried' about her have responded to my post about the pressure that has been piled on Kate for the last few years especially from someone she was once very close to


Yes but William did a photo
someone else edited or changed bits.


He is at the Commonwealth Ceremony today

He can tell the Press what, went on with the photo.

Ammi 11-03-2024 06:31 AM

…it maybe sounds strange to say but I find it quite reassuring and ‘honest’ as well in a way…that for one of the most wealthy and influential families and institutions in the world, something so amateur-ish has been done…because the level of conspiracy involvement in the past has been quite…well, very negative …this to me shows a family/institution etc that has just quickly botched something together to try appease the conspiracies and now…?…it’s obviously just made it worse…the conspiracies don’t matter…conspiracies are going to conspiracy, as they say…it’s what they’re leaning is to do…but because it’s become an international rejection of the pic in highlighting its manipulation etc…?…that in itself will probably require an explanation…and it feels like this is all the last thing the family need right now, I feel for them…what a total royal pickle this has become…

Gusto Brunt 11-03-2024 06:37 AM

My first thought when I saw the picture was it wasn't real.

You can do so much with digital photography these days and there is no reason why the person manipulating the photo would leave a hand looking a bit weird. Unless of course the intention was to show the photo had been touched up.:shocked:

Kate's face could have been taken from any other photo and superimposed on that body.


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