Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11457452)

i won't be watching any debate. Really, what's the point

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11457454)

Live Audiences can get Angry at Starmer

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11457457)

and that's interesting?

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11457458)

I'm with Bots... I'm totally sick of it already.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11457462)

I understand that
as it is like Ed Davey
yesterday fell in the water 5 times,
just to get on the news.


He even admitted
he was doing that

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11457371)

Yes I'll try to in a small way hopefully Kazanne.:wavey:

I think you'll recall when Mr ugh Blair won in 1997.
He started to get the then waiting lists down by bringing in private sources.
This is Streeting's plan too to help with that.

I'm pleased too that Wes Streeting realises that major reform of the NHS will be necessary.
Not to break it's core founding of care free at the point of need.
However to make more of the resources already in place which are not being used more efficiently.

Plus, he's looking to have weekend working too, which will help considerably in dealing with the backlog in conjunction too with the private input too.

That's the starting point and sorry I was only 5 when this was done from 1997.
However it had a big impact on the then high waiting list that had built up to 1997.

I think too, and he's rightly said even today, he cannot give the Junior Doctors anything like 35% on wages.
However he will meet regularly and negotiate across the board on all their concerns not just pay.

Myself, I believe he can then just with those things, start to substantially bring down the waiting lists.
It's scandalous to me that elderly people are on the list for operations for cataracts, knee and hip operations for a year and in many cases years.

Plus too, digressing now, if Streeting's looking for ideas to fully reform the NHS .
Then if I was him, I'd start by phasing out the parasitical trust management set up.
Get back to something like Matrons running hospitals.

Those trust managers and their endless number of admin staff for them.
Contribute not a single thing to hands on care.
I'd rather see them replaced by new Doctors and Nurses.
That's what I'd like to see.

It's not going to be easy and I don't want to get party political with you because I know you genuinely believe in the Conservatives and respect that.

However the confrontational attitude towards Junior Doctors and the lip service to the NHS as to how great it is, is NOT going to do much to bring down waiting lists.

Hope I've said some little thing to help answer your query there Kazanne :wavey:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11457623)

Thankyou Joey . I am undecided at the moment as to who to vote for , but I am agreeing with you in the fact that some of the old style NHS would be better (matrons etc) also i think those at the top should be overhauled. I do think a lot is wasted, I wish you luck with your campaign,exciting times for you x:wavey:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11457452)

i won't be watching any debate. Really, what's the point

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11457647)