Any contact with Bulger's parents breaches the terms of their release :nono:

I think you should stop right there,i know a lot more than you think,so please drop it,we know your opinions anyway.

Yes...but do you really think the parents would keep quiet about what they look like? No, no I don't.

Didn't the mother apprently see one of the killers once? She was tipped off, but when she finally saw him she was so consumed with rage she just stood there shaking.

All I will say on this is that Denise knows what they look like,i am saying nothing else on this case.

Exactly.

Oh what, are you pen pals with them or something? You haven't seen them and neither have many others. If they had their identities would've been leaked to the press and public already, don't you think?

Yes.

the problem with rehabilitation as I previously said is that the only way of finding out if it's worked is by sending paedophiles/murderers back into society again and I'm sorry but if I had to make a choice on giving someone a second chance or fully protecting innocent children than I would choose the latter and never send a paedophile/murderer back into society ever again.

Okay, fair enough, I admit I didn't know this. So I apologise :)

Excellent post, it says it all really, there is no 100% guarantee it wouldn't happen again so as you say totally correctly life should mean life for those caught.

Why have certain posts vanished? Censorship or what?

But surely if all the evidence points to them having reformed, it is the right thing to do to give them a second chance, I think that should be a fundamental right. Padeophillia is a grey area because it is far more engrained in the human mind, but a murder can be done in a rush of blood or something like that. Reformation has shown to be sucessful in the past, and with the added deterrent of retribution from serving their time, it is the best and the most fair policy imo.

LOL,note Angus the insults to me are still there:joker::joker::joker:such a fair place this TIBB,but at least they left mine on too:joker::joker::joker:

So folks, 25 pages of madness. What have we learnt?

Not imo no, a second chance for a criminal is not worth risking mine or anyone elses innocent child. I would prioritise and the innocent would be my priority.

Lol, seriously though I had a mini emergency this end so had to leave the debate. When I got back posts exchanged between me and a certain FM had disappeared! Smacks to me of protecting their own.

i think so aswell.

What is all this 'protecting their own' stuff?

Angus and Jedward stick to the topic, this is no time for conspiracy theories :nono:

Whose posts have been deleted?

ok but all i can say is,is that how can anybody care about pedophiles and killers unless you knew them personally?

Who said I care about them? And you obviously care seen as you've posted so much about it.

well you seem to care that people want the scumbags dead,and yes i care because i want the ****ers dead.

Good for you.

I don't 'care' about them, but in a lot of cases there is some form of mental illness involved, in fact paedophilia IS an illness, an incurable one at this moment in time, which is why I said they don't CHOOSE to go out and abuse children, it's a compulsion and while yes they deserve to be locked up and the key thrown away until some form of cure can be found (if it can be), I don't agree that they should be sentenced to death for what is an illness that they can't help acting on. More needs to be spent on learning about it and as the only surefire way of protecting children is to have them locked up then yes life should mean life as there is no known form of rehabilitation for their condition as yet.

but not all pedophiles are mentally insane as some know what there doing.

And you know this how? If someone is classed as a paedophile by the clincal definition then I'm sorry but they CAN'T help it and they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing, hence why it's called a mental illness, they don't know right from wrong and are compelled to do what they do.

Well perhaps they should have done a better job bringing their child up properly in the first place. The propensity to become a murderer, rapist, paedophile etc., must have been evident at some point during their upbringing and the parents have either ignored it or worse, been instrumental by virtue of their inadequate parenting, in fostering it.

Upbringing has nothing to do with it. People from good families become killers, Paedos rapists. The whole 'it's because they had a bad upbringing' thing is a myth.

I would say in alot of cases it has something to do with it, not all but alot

but then your saying there pure evil because they must have at least had 1 thing bad in the childhood.

Indeed, but that is when it becomes harder to catch a Paedophile, when you assume they'll be some creepy looking guy hanging out at schools.

jedward,you have won the real argument with your firm stance and reasoned laying out of you opinion. your points are not invalidated by you getting any personal insults from areas that offer no constructive detailed argument as to facts.
I asked on here if anyone could say to me that 100% if an abuser was released from prison after all these risk assessments etc that they believed there was not a sinlge chance of them abusing again, I got veiled response and no 100% guranteee.


Niamhxo pointed out that he/she would never give a second chance to paedophiles or killers in order to protect innocent children so he/she would never let them out of prison. That is a right statement and right thing to do becasue there are no guarantees possible and the risk is too great to take to let them rejoin society.

With some exceptions that would be the Nations view, the UK population is clamouring for capital punishment to be brought back, especially for child harmers and killers.

You jedward are in the majority of opinion, it may not seem that way on here, but you are so know that and let all else just wash over you because little of the criticism levelled at you has any base or relevance whatsoever.

Pople who abuse,and sexually abuse children are the scum of the earth, they lose in my view any right at all to be part of any society after committing such vile crimes against Children.
I find it incredible that any would think otherwise to that, but if they do then they must have their reasons whatever they may be,even though understanding those reasons will be far beyond me I'm afraid.

Pure evil people do exist.

Sorry but I don't agree with that at all. Not all rapists, murderers etc show signs of having any issues at all growing up, and it's harsh to pin the blame on the parents, when any number of things that happen later on in life could have sparked them off. That brings in the whole nature v nuture debate as well, and experts are very split on that subject. Are people born evil or are they a product of their environment?

no I mean I wouldn't assume that they look like anything

Are you actually serious? :/

Thats a stupid statement to make really, not everybodies upbringing sets them out for the way they will be later on in life, some yes but not all....

Yes but you were assuming a type of personality as well

Umm No, the majority of the population do not believe in mutilation as a punishment, and most do not believe in the death penalty.