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James 19-06-2009 11:08 AM

A breakaway series would be pretty disastrous for the sport. It would be like what happened in America when Indycar racing split in two. It damaged racing there quite a bit.

Iceman 20-06-2009 12:24 AM

Ah finally I can have my say, I messed up my internet last night!

I predicted this during the week, it's a game of cat and mouse. Ecclestone will not let a breakaway series happen these are threats, if it does happen id be completely shocked and it would ruin F1/New series. The fans don't want this, the teams don't want this, nobody wants this. If ecclestone and the nazi do some mediating it could be sorted in a day!

Rant over!:hugesmile:

libra68 20-06-2009 12:26 AM

do you think the teams will split away from f1 next year,webber one to watch this weekend,cant wait for qualifing tomorrow

Iceman 20-06-2009 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by libra68
do you think the teams will split away from f1 next year,webber one to watch this weekend,cant wait for qualifing tomorrow
I think that it will be sorted by the end of this weekend or early next week! They can't afford to leave the sport in disrespute for long, it's been all about the breakaway series this weekend but yet they're having the final grand prix at Silverstone and it hasn't been reported!

Come This time next week everything will be fine!:thumbs:

andyman 20-06-2009 12:37 AM

Scrap the budget cap = no split! Easy.

Iceman 20-06-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by andyman
Scrap the budget cap = no split! Easy.
It's actually that simple, it's Bernie and Max wanting complete control and Fota and FIA having a dispute.

Iceman 20-06-2009 12:49 AM

MAX MOSLEY has told F1 to F-off as the bitter £1billion battle for control of the sport descends into open warfare.

Motor-racing supremo Mosley has threatened to sue all eight teams vowing to quit the FIA and set up their own championship.


British legend Jackie Stewart also weighed in to demand Mosley steps down before the entire sport self-destructs.


But Mosley, 69, broke his silence to come out punching - refusing to budge from his position as president of the FIA and setting in motion a £1bn legal battle.


Jenson Button's Brawn GP team, Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW Sauber, Toyota, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso have all refused to accept Mosley's proposed £40million spending cap for next season.


Instead, the eight members of the Formula One Teams' Association announced they were quitting to set up their own grand-prix circus.


But Mosley blasted: "Basically, the teams don't want agreement - they want sporting power and money.


"Many have already been paid half of their participation fees until 2012 up front and in one case they would have to pay back £100m, while others will run to tens of millions.


"The amounts involved could be massive if we go for damages to Formula One. Breakaway? Pure fantasy, they know it is fantasy. It is never going to happen.


"If they set up the Golden Steering Wheel Championship, who will want to watch it?


"It is not the FIA Formula One World Championship. That is what counts. I know because I once tried to set up a rival series with Bernie Ecclestone.


"I am less likely now to step down in October because any thoughts I had about retiring are fading.


"If I dropped dead tomorrow they will probably get someone worse than me, with far less understanding of F1."


Mosley is confident a compromise settlement will be reached in time for the 2010 season.


He said: "I don't take it as seriously as some people do because I know that it is all posturing and posing.


"It will all stop some time between the beginning of 2010 and March 2010, the first race.


"All this will stop, it will all settle down and everyone will go racing.


"I am completely confident because, in the end, people do whatever is in their interests.


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"It is in the interests of the teams to be in the F1 world championship and there's actually no fundamental or important issue that is stopping them taking part. It is all about personalities and power and who can grab what from whom - which is easy when nothing is at stake but when it gets to the first race and it is make-your-mind-up time, they'll be there."


Earlier, the FIA issued a dramatic statement from their Paris HQ, insisting their lawyers "will be issuing legal proceedings without delay".


Ferrari recently lost their bid for an injunction to stop proposed changes to the sport.


They refused to comment further but other FOTA members remain adamant they will stick to their bombshell announcement.


Brawn GP team owner Ross Brawn said: "The teams' ambition is not to take over F1 but they have a massive investment in it. They want their investment protected."


McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh added: "FOTA's position isn't that we don't want to cut costs, we do.


"Ultimately, we're very close in many things. And that is perhaps one of the sad things.


"If you look at FOTA's position and the FIA, there are a lot of common views and yet, for whatever reasons - maybe personal relationships - we weren't able to come to an arrangement."





Mosley saying he's staying, mocking other teams, I've now changed my mind he can go and have F1 with three crap teams and a load of newbies it will fall flat on it's face.:mad:

andyman 20-06-2009 12:58 AM

The breakaway will form a new Premireship.

Iceman 20-06-2009 01:02 AM

Breakway will end the Sport, it's only just recovered from the dominating Schumi/Ferrari years. It's finally got interesting again and this happens! So angry as a fan:mad::mad::mad:

andyman 20-06-2009 01:11 AM

Well it's going to happen if the budget cap aint put in the bin.

Iceman 20-06-2009 01:15 AM

Im going to just try and ignore all the crap and politics for the weekend and watch the actual sport!(except tomorrow im going to Slane Castle to see Oasis and Prodighy!:hello::colour:

andyman 20-06-2009 01:27 AM

Yeah best to enjoy the sport.. Before it goes belly up.:laugh:

Nah i think things will work out.

Good to see The Prodigy still going strong.

Iceman 20-06-2009 02:04 AM

I shall be well on my way before I see them tmorrow, im gonna get smashed as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wink::wink:

Iceman 20-06-2009 03:43 AM



Great tribute video! :spin2:

andyman 20-06-2009 11:57 PM

:dance:

Iceman 21-06-2009 02:41 PM

Brawn's dominance is slipping!

Good race today loads of suprises!!

pinkmichk 21-06-2009 02:53 PM

i agree was a really good race today i think mclaren are not going to push too much they seem like they are happy to accept defeat in the championship

ange7 21-06-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Iceman


Great tribute video! :spin2:
does it include the highlight where he screws up Webber's final qualifying lap?
more like vodka and ice man

Iceman 21-06-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by Iceman


Great tribute video! :spin2:
does it include the highlight where he screws up Webber's final qualifying lap?
:joker::joker: why would it? why would it have anything to do with someone who's always going to be a no.2 driver!:wink::tongue:

James 21-06-2009 02:59 PM

Game on for the rest of the season? Maybe. ;)

Iceman 21-06-2009 03:02 PM

Yeah if Vettel keeps the fight on then it should be, he needs webber to do his job aswell! Ferrari were good today, in particular Kimi great start!

ange7 21-06-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Iceman
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by Iceman


Great tribute video! :spin2:
does it include the highlight where he screws up Webber's final qualifying lap?
:joker::joker: why would it? why would it have anything to do with someone who's always going to be a no.2 driver!:wink::tongue:
lol ...you got me there.

pinkmichk 21-06-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by James
Game on for the rest of the season? Maybe. ;)
absolutly its not a completely job done conclusion now :hello: even though my team aint anywhere in sight they will be back next season

James 24-06-2009 12:46 PM

No breakaway next season. That was sorted out quick.

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An agreement has been reached between Formula 1's governing body and the teams to prevent a breakaway series, says FIA president Max Mosley.

The two parties had been engulfed in a bitter row over planned budgetary and technical changes for the 2010 season.

But it appears a resolution has now been found and, as part of the deal, Mosley has agreed not to stand for re-election as president.

"There will be no split. We have agreed to a reduction of costs," added Mosley.

"There will be one F1 championship but the objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early 90s within two years."

F1 surpremo Bernie Ecclestone added that he is "very happy common sense has prevailed", following a meeting of 120 members of the FIA in Paris aimed at resolving the crisis.

Ahead of the meeting, Mosley had insisted that he would not step down as part of any potential agreement and might even seek re-election as head of world motor sport.

He hit out at what he described as "wholly unjustified criticism" of the FIA, adding: "It is for the FIA membership, and the FIA membership alone, to decide on its democratically elected leadership, not the motor industry and still less the individuals the industry employs to run its Formula 1 teams."

However, it appears Mosley has now agreed to move aside when his fourth term as FIA president ends in October, saying: "I will not be up for re-election, now we have peace."

Furthermore, writs that had been threatened against Ferrari and the other teams in the Formula 1 Teams Association (Fota) - McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - are likely to be shelved.

The agreement ends two months of wrangling since Mosley announced after a World Council meeting at the end of April that a voluntary £40m budget cap would be imposed from next season - a plan that prompted a rebellion from eight teams, with Fota announcing on Thursday they were planning a rival series.


But the new agreement ends that threat, while still maintaining the "financial viability" of teams which had been targeted with the initial cap, said Mosley. As part of the agreement, existing teams must help new outfits with their engines and chassis.

"It's come as a bit of a surprise, given that Fota were planning to meet in Bologna on Thursday to discuss their plans for the breakaway championship," reported BBC sports news correspondent James Munro from Paris.

"But what we got today after a meeting of World Motorsport Council was an impromptu press conference and Mosley began by saying there will be no split, there will be one championship.

"He said that over the course of the negotiations he had been able to secure guarantees from the teams who were threatening to break away that they would try to reign back the levels of their spending to the levels they were spending in the early 90s.

"It was him that had come up with the idea that next season all teams would have a budget cap of about £40m, but there has clearly been a trade-off as he has also agreed to do what he says was always the plan - stand down as president of the FIA this October."

It is not the first time Mosley has promised to stand down as FIA president, however.

In June 2004, Mosley announced then he would stand down from his position in October of that year - only to rescind his decision a month later and secure re-election.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8116756.stm

Iceman 24-06-2009 07:11 PM

Yeah I'm happy Mr News Of The World is going, good for the Sport, although looking at the breakaway calender they proposed it seemed great.


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