Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590848)

He doesn't show hatred to homosexuality.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6590853)

That's a valid point, as to his life and the people he will have been around, that doesn't excuse ignorance though for me.

You know I love your posts Chuff and very often agree many times with you too. I take on board his background but he is on a national TV programme which he is well aware is being filmd 24/7.

So while he has,in that environment within reason, every right to say what he thinks of course.
It is then,(I think anyway),better counsel to curb what you say in that public environment that may not be an acceptable justification for the viewpoint.

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6590860)

That's your second attempt at rebuffing the same post i made and it makes no more sense or has no more relevance than your first attempt.:hugesmile:

Good work!

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590864)

yes you are generalizing and enforcing your own view and opinion on all 6 billion plus humans on the planet. spectacularly ignorant and arrogant that is. thats not a forum smiley as you know so youre also being disingenuous and to call people crazy is also discriminatory and insensitive, so youre a total hypocrite too

plenty of hetrosexual people commit suicide too , the rates are far higher in hetrosexual men on average than anyone else , often due to drugs , booze, broken families, lost access to their kids , career pressure and you barely post about the matter because its not part of your agenda.


you cant speak for all gay people and to do so is stereotypying everyone. stick to your own experience, can you change from being so judgemental and stereotyping people/

Originally Posted by Seanbon (Post 6590854)

That's a bit heterophobic,to suggest a "straight" person would have no understanding that a gay person is born that way!?!:conf:

Originally Posted by subliminal (Post 6590866)

He didn't have to express hatred - he expressed enough through his homophobic views thanks. Oh and as a gay man I think this description of homophobia is about right...

'Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.'

Originally Posted by subliminal (Post 6590866)

He didn't have to express hatred - he expressed enough through his homophobic views thanks. Oh and as a gay man I think this description of homophobia is about right...

'Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.'

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590872)

Please go ahead and explain how you'd know what a gay person feels then!?!:conf:

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590872)

Please go ahead and explain how you'd know what a gay person feels then!?!:conf:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590867)

He did himself no favours tonight by what he said ,but thats not my argument Joey its his right to say it that i think where the argument lies ,I loath and kick and scream against the PC brigade and always will ,no one has a right to tell me,or anyone else what they are allowed to say or think ,they can tell you they dont agree with what you said and then it stops there, to carry on after that is arrogance

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590877)

Youve been doing that all night

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6590224)

He equated being gay to being handicapped I have no time for anyone who believes you can be entitled to say that

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6590870)

I'm talking about people who commit suicide because of their sexuality jfc

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 6590885)

Eww, so disappointing... yet another one in there living in the dark ages. If he didn't get a formal warning, he deserved one.

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6590879)

So have you :joker:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590887)

So you ignore other suicides? you dont think theres lots of other reasons why they commit suicide? why dont you show as much concern for the mass male suicides worldwide for all men, including hetrosexual ones?

if you are sincere then dont you think allowing some conversation will enhance our understanding ? or do you advocate outlawing all opinions all discussions the way big brother did tonight/?

Originally Posted by SoBig (Post 6590894)

Some people are different. I know a kid who says he was gay all his life and was born that way. He liked guys from the start. I know a girl who was straight throughout her life then in college experimented with girls and is now back dating a guy and swears she isn't gay and was just trying out.

So I do think its a choice for some people and for others it isn't.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590868)

it makes perfect sense youre either in denial or lack the intellect to work it out.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 6590897)

young gay teens are 8x more likely too commit suicide than the average person

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590887)

So you ignore other suicides? you dont think theres lots of other reasons why they commit suicide? why dont you show as much concern for the mass male suicides worldwide for all men, including hetrosexual ones?

if you are sincere then dont you think allowing some conversation will enhance our understanding ? or do you advocate outlawing all opinions all discussions the way big brother did tonight/?

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590912)

You are right,You have tormented people in all walks of life, not every straight person is happy as Larry, its silly to single out gay people who kill themselves ,Pain and hurt ,happens to ALL people ,not just gay people

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 6590897)

young gay teens are 8x more likely too commit suicide than the average person