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It was an identifiable gay club, where he knew for certain 'likely' all or near all the people there at that time were of the gay community only. |
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To deny that this is an attack on LBGT is to deny reality. He targeted gay people in a gay club during Pride Month. It was both a hate crime and act of terror (as all these mass shootings are, regardless of race or creed). |
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I don't honestly believe this to be a religious issue, reports have said that the shooter wasn't particularly religious, he most likely used it as justification to mask the real reason which was that his homophobia stemmed from being unable to accept his own sexuality.
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This LA Times article sheds a bit of new light on it:
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So 15 years ago he was celebrating americans dying in 9/11. |
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Sounds to me like he was an islamic radical who wanted to kill americans and the gay people in the club just happened to be where he hung out. |
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The fact that he pledged allegiance to ISIS and was already known to the FBI as a radical, and had already said 15 years earlier that he was glad americans died in 9/11, tells us that this was an islamic terrorist attack. The fact that he may be gay or his victims are is incidental. |
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It's a bit of a dubious report when you compare it to everything else we know. |
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This is an attack on the LGBT community, it's ****ing DISGRACEFUL to minimise that fact to justify your own ****ing hatred. |
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All of that points to an islamic terror attack. And the authorities in america are all treating it as one. To claim this is about gays is like claiming the Bataclan killers did it because they didn't like the music of the band that were playing. It is a red herring. The left, IMO, are having difficulty resolving this as they spend equal amounts of time campaigning for muslims and gay people and this has really confused them. |
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I am surprised that people want to paint him as just a self-loathing gay guy as that reflects quite badly on the gay community. If I was in the LGBT community, I would be wanting this to be an extremist, not one of my own. All evidence points to him being an islamic terrorist. This isn't just me saying this. The authorities involved are too. You haven't shown me anything to make me disbelieve them. |
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I'm disgusted by your attitude, you are so willing to deny that this is a hate crime targeted at the LGBT community, to downplay their suffering and loss just so you can go on an BIGOTED anti-islamic tirade. Disgusting. |
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I don't believe that this is about homosexuality. I just think it was a convenient target for his long term, proven extremism and hatred of americans. Yes, he may have picked a gay club as he dislikes gays particularly but in the grand scheme of things, it isn't relevant. PEOPLE are dead because of this clown. I don't care what sexuality they were and I don't see why it matters. |
Apparently he visited the club about a dozen times, just because he had a gay dating app and visited the club doesn't mean he is automatically gay, he may have just been researching his target, until someone comes forward to say he was in a gay relationship with them we have no evidence to say he was. The 9/11 pilots weren't pilots, they just trained as pilots to carry out their attack, they weren't ferrying tourists and business people around the globe
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Suggesting that he just "happened to know" the club or that it was "just the place he stumbled into" is utterly ridiculous. Whatever his larger motivation, there is no question that the attack was targetted against people that he, for whatever reason, specifically hated for their sexuality. It is uttely blinkered to argue otherwise. |
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You have no evidence that he specifically targeted this club because he hated gays. If he had attacked a straight club, would you have claimed he targeted them because of their sexuality? It is a wrong assumption. It could be true but you have no evidence for it right now. Everything points to this being a regular haunt for him and mass shooters tend to shoot up places they know. |
Can we close this thread now. It's making me feel sick
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