Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10507307)

Well said Lime

Originally Posted by lime (Post 10507269)

I have to disagree with you Vicky.The EU will not allow Brexit "stuff" to carry on for years.
With all due respect ...this is a UK decision ...we need to know what you want so we can ALL move on...But if the UK can not decide what this Brexit stuff is ...how do expect us to?

So frustrating as an Irish/South African watching your media let Brexiteers go unchallenged ..They lie constantly...you will hear some say let's get on with "it".
Would be helpfull if the UK let the EU what "it" was.

An Irish friend of mine told me to listen to nigel Farage on LBC so I did a week ago..OH my in the space of an hour he contractided himself 4 times .This myth that the EU are holding the UK in the EU...whilst May was seeking to extend .The Uk is free to leave at any time.


Iknow this is petty but it annoys me when British media report that May was left alone till the early hours waiting for EU to decide your faith...as if this was the EU trying to humiliate you guys.May can not be part of those disscussions amongst EU nations as she no longer wants to be part of the EU.I have seen "mainly in the Telegraph" that the remaining left May on her own whilst they ate and drank.For the love that allis sacred ...do their readers not get that it might take a couple of hours for 27 coutries to come to an agreement...If the Uk can't agree with themselves over 3 yrs Why when the remaing 27 take a few hours it is considered an insult

Originally Posted by lime (Post 10507269)

I have to disagree with you Vicky.The EU will not allow Brexit "stuff" to carry on for years.
With all due respect ...this is a UK decision ...we need to know what you want so we can ALL move on...But if the UK can not decide what this Brexit stuff is ...how do expect us to?

Originally Posted by lime (Post 10507269)

I have to disagree with you Vicky.The EU will not allow Brexit "stuff" to carry on for years.
With all due respect ...this is a UK decision ...we need to know what you want so we can ALL move on...But if the UK can not decide what this Brexit stuff is ...how do expect us to?

So frustrating as an Irish/South African watching your media let Brexiteers go unchallenged ..They lie constantly...you will hear some say let's get on with "it".
Would be helpfull if the UK let the EU what "it" was.

An Irish friend of mine told me to listen to nigel Farage on LBC so I did a week ago..OH my in the space of an hour he contractided himself 4 times .This myth that the EU are holding the UK in the EU...whilst May was seeking to extend .The Uk is free to leave at any time.


Iknow this is petty but it annoys me when British media report that May was left alone till the early hours waiting for EU to decide your faith...as if this was the EU trying to humiliate you guys.May can not be part of those disscussions amongst EU nations as she no longer wants to be part of the EU.I have seen "mainly in the Telegraph" that the remaining left May on her own whilst they ate and drank.For the love that allis sacred ...do their readers not get that it might take a couple of hours for 27 coutries to come to an agreement...If the Uk can't agree with themselves over 3 yrs Why when the remaing 27 take a few hours it is considered an insult

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10507590)

Snipped though was a fantastic post overall.

Yeah I guess thats true, the EU won't let us take the piss forever, just because our politicians have no clue. Whenever the EU stop giving us more time, then I suspect a revote will happen. Leave with no deal V revoke article 50 (if they arent so sick of us by then that they remove that option!)

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10507602)

The problem with this thinking is that it seems to operate on the basis that the people of the UK "decided we all wanted to leave" and have now "changed or can't make up our minds" and that that's the cause of delay. The accurate picture is that it was so close to being 50/50 that coming to a consensus was always going to be very difficult if not impossible; and that's compounded by the fact that at this point it's quite likely that Brexit ISN'T even what the majority want, and yet it's still being pushed to conclusion anyway.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10507606)

Thankfully, that can't happen; it's already been legally decided that A50 can be withdrawn at any point before any established deadline, even if it's literally the last minute, and the EU will accept the cancellation.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10507607)

Lime is missing the point that its a remainer Parliament, if it were a leaver Parliament we would have been out on no deal.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10507613)

I mean I'm just going to be blunt and say that (as awful people as many of them are); it's a remainer parliament because MP's generally have a half-decent level of education, and "Leave" is the vote of mercenary speculative capitalist Tories who stand to gain from everyone else's loss, and the unfortunate saps who were economically naive enough to be sucked in by their rhetoric.

The whole reason that the Brexit ref. ever even happened can be summed up by David Cameron and chums sat round a table saying "Yeah allowing the ref would be a real votes winner, and surely no one is stupid enough to actually vote for economic suicide, right lol?"

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10507667)

i was always of the mind that i don't really care if we are in or out of the EU, but trashing existing trade agreements when we are not in a psition of strength is the height of stupidity.

I get that people don't like being dictated to by outside sources, but that's what life is like in the big bad world. The country or block with the biggest sword dictates the terms most favourable to it. It's been that way since time began. To suggest that we would be better of negotiating from a position of weakness is just complete stupidity.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10507667)

i was always of the mind that i don't really care if we are in or out of the EU, but trashing existing trade agreements when we are not in a position of strength is the height of stupidity.

I get that people don't like being dictated to by outside sources, but that's what life is like in the big bad world. The country or block with the biggest sword dictates the terms most favourable to it. It's been that way since time began. To suggest that we would be better off negotiating from a position of weakness is just complete stupidity.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10507674)

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Yes, how people in all honesty think the UK will be on the front foot with China, USA ect is madness :laugh:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10507586)

They are not unchallenged though, that is why there is gridlock?

'it' is no deal for Brexiteers

'it' is another ref for remainers

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10507607)

Lime is missing the point that its a remainer Parliament, if it were a leaver Parliament we would have been out on no deal.

Originally Posted by lime (Post 10507768)

Wrong.

No point being missed on our side.


We in the EU simply don't care if your parliament is leave or remain ...We want this setteled


FFS makes no difference if its may or Mogg...

Originally Posted by lime (Post 10507751)

....just listen to Davis ..Mogg talk about Sm..CU..WTo they lie and the only responce they get is noding dogs

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10507778)

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 10507487)

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 10507495)

I did wonder, with he media profile at the moment if Philip Hammond MP would make a good replacement PM, but when he was a transport secretary he questioned why trains did not stop at level crossings to let the cars go by...

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10507613)

I mean I'm just going to be blunt and say that (as awful people as many of them are); it's a remainer parliament because MP's generally have a half-decent level of education, and "Leave" is the vote of mercenary speculative capitalist Tories who stand to gain from everyone else's loss, and the unfortunate saps who were economically naive enough to be sucked in by their rhetoric.

The whole reason that the Brexit ref. ever even happened can be summed up by David Cameron and chums sat round a table saying "Yeah allowing the ref would be a real votes winner, and surely no one is stupid enough to actually vote for economic suicide, right lol?"

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10507928)

Yes Underscore
you posted it
But Slim Reaper
ignored you
and posted it AGAIN

Nothing new.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10507781)

I mean I don't know what you're being shown but this is totally false :think:. The only "nodding dogs" would be No-Deal advocates and those aren't even the majority of Leave voters. It sounds like you either have blinkers on, or are being shown one-sided sensationalist media :shrug:.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10507775)

There you go...'our side' there are 16 million living in Britain who are on 'your side' as well, but you have already shown you have an irrational hate of all things British whatever side they are on. We all want it settled, I thought you were totally against a no deal? what about the Irish border..... ? Rees Mogg is constantly taken to task, you seem to be only seeing things you want to see

Why are you swearing? it makes a big difference if you have a leaver PM in control...