sarcasm is the lowest form of wit zzzzzzzz

now try and concentrate for longer sentences and you may learn something
freedom of speech is a good thing, a great thing.....remeber ali in the 1970s he wanted seperatism based on HIS experiences....it was discussed and debated and now years later we see seperatism was not the way....yet ali was and is a good man living in a nation that outlawed the black man eating a meal in his hometown living in poverty in many parts , there were endless lynchings racist cops, then the government wanted him to fight the vietnamese ? fight for what?

so according to the PC brigade in this country the way forward is to ban all conversation. 1 wrong word on twitter creates a meltdown. its mindless

these issues must be discussed the way ali bravely discussed his issues in his time. thats the way we progress

is there something actually wrong with you? like do you even realise how ******ing random and ridiculous you're being? I'm talking SPECIFICALLY about people who commit suicide because of being gay, and saying if who they were attracted to was a choice they obviously wouldn't need resort to that. That's all I said, I didn't say anything about having different levels of compassion for different people and I didn't once say sexuality is the only reason why people kill themselves

Rylan Clark
the impartial presenter...not



Everyone is entitled to their opinion... And as a presenter I legally remain unbiased. HOWEVER what evander just said, was disgusting.



The thing is , I genuinely don't think evander thinks what he's saying is offensive. Which comes down to his upbringing and religion....



And as I've said, religion , upbringing etc shapes us all for life. Just so sad to think the fact I'm in love with a man means I'm 'broken'




Everyone's entitled to their opinion,as much as fantastic charities like @stonewalluk campaign, some people think us 'gays' need to be fixed



And now I've said my piece, on with the rest of the series. Each to their own x



But as I say each to their own, we all have our opinions. And are all entitled to them. Off to bed now with my BOYfriend. Night night x

flop logic, they become mentally unstable because of opinions like Evanders.

No, It proves homophobes like Evander that decide too air these opinions cause damage too other people and cause them too feel isolated & worried, as there are many homophobes out there.

She was still choosing to be gay.

Imo freedom of speech should not be stamped out, especially on a show like Big Brother that had Conor threaten to rape a woman and not do anything whatsoever.

Btw I do not agree with Evander's opinion.

the hetrophobes do the same to hetro men too....the amount of male bashing and male hate in th emedia and on this website outweighs gay bashing by 1000 to 1

lying again. he was kicked out.

No, she was choosing to experiment with women.

If you mean conor, he wasnt kicked out. He chose to walk with 50k of the prize money. He got no punishment for what he did at all

No she was choosing to have gay sex, not choosing her feelings. Is that really ****ing hard to distinguish

so true. I feel like a weirdo because I have had one woman since I was 14 and in 2 yrs that's 50 yrs of bliss.

Conor left with 50k

That was definitely one of BB's worst mistakes in my opinion!
Considering the warnings some people have had for far less he should have been ejected. If it was just one incident maybe a warning would have sufficed but he pretty much waged a campaign against her.
He was one of the most disgusting BB housemates ever in my opinion.:yuk:

No why are YOU lying, I've seen the show, read the transcript...

With £50,000

He did exactly what the original poster claimed Reece, no doubt about it.

JUST REMEMBER.This society that allows us to the freedom of our speech/opinions is the very same society which allows people to be openly gay in public/gay marriage/hold religious beliefs.We are'nt in an oppressive regime(yet anyway).If it were'nt for freedom of speech this possibly would'nt be the case,Once you start telling people what they are allowed to say/think,It is a slippery slope and could turn out bad for everybody!Evander has as much right to his opinion as a gay person has to his/her opinion.We all need to learn to respect that.

My sister is gay,as are my two best friends,one male and one female,and I have had many conversations with them,and others,about their feelings! And being an intelligent being I can empathise with them,and understand their feelings!?!

Agreed, if you don't like Evander's opinion just don't vote for him to win or stay.

Exactly :) It is our choice!

superbly put, brilliant in fact

I'm astounded by some of the ignorance in this thread. I left for what, an hour? And I've returned to read some truly bizarre things.

Let's get one thing straight [lol pun] - you do not chose your sexuality. How difficult can this concept be to understand? If you are a man and you are sexually attracted to men, see a man and think he's attractive, wanna stick your dick in him...you are gay. Whether you go on to marry a woman and have kids with a woman or not, you are gay. You have not chosen to be straight, you have chosen (or rather been coerced into it as a result of being brought up in a homophobic environment that has left you scared and/or in denial) to suppress your true sexuality. That's it. That is not a choice to be straight, because you are gay.

Now, once again back onto the Evander subject - yes, he is perfectly entitled to his (wrong, might I add) opinion, that is after all a right given to you in a society which has freedom of speech. But he's on a UK television show broadcast on a terrestrial network which has a couple of million viewers each night, and funnily enough Channel 5 have a brand to protect. Views like that are offensive to some people, and as such they have to cover their backs. If Evander wishes to express such opinions in the presence of his God loving friends, then that's his prerogative. Similarly if he were to have such a discussion in a pub with someone he'd just met, then he's entitled to do so. But he's on a TV show and in case people hadn't realised, he will have had made clear to him before, by both the producers and his agent(s) - that expressing such potentially controversial or left-field opinions could offend viewers, and are topics to avoid discussing. Luisa even tried to stop him in his tracks, but he didn't listen to her. He was not given a formal warning, so those up in arms about that need to seriously calm down. But he was reminded that expressing such views could offend some viewers, which is true and makes such a reprimanding justifiable.

As I've said earlier, I'm glad this discussion was broadcast because these kind of opinions being highlighted in society will only eventually seek to eradicate them as they are challenged and ironed out as we progress as a nation. These debates have to happen, but I'm afraid the right to freedom of speech doesn't mean that Channel 5 are just going to let this one be brushed under the carpet.

and they all told you it was a choice they made?