I've been a member of this forum for five years in December, and I've seen the forums even quieter than this during Big Brother. All this sounds to me is that you're annoyed there is no feed, and that you're failing to notice the positive impact the show has had on Channel 5. You're looking at everything negative.

Big Brother is the most talked about show on social media day after day, and that's a massive thing. Behind The X Factor, Big Brother and Celebrity Big Brother were the two most talked about shows in 2013 and 2014. Disillusionment is what you have, my friend. You're failing to see that Big Brother is now a show that revolved around social media. We are in a completely different era to what we had on Channel 4. Big Brother now relies on social media to keep it alive.

Big Brother now uses social media to interact with fans, which everyone is moving with. We aren't "accepting a subpar product". We're happy with the series. This year feels so much more natural and interesting than what we've had recently and it's refreshing. This series is the best we've had in five years and I'm extremely proud of the show for managing to continue for 15 years - something that most shows cannot accomplish.

I have praised the show for heading in the right direction with Big Brother 14. Unfortunately, last years show was a debacle. I thought that with a new owner, maybe Channel 5 along with the producers would turn it around and build on the positive feedback it got for the BB14 series. But it hasn't. Everything I disliked about the show is back this year only it's even more desperate and uninspired.

Social media is a 24/7 activity. Do you not see how a 24/7 feed lends itself well to that? Can you imagine the reaction on twitter to fight night during BB5? The amount of people going to the DS forums to talk about it that night caused the whole site to crash. In doing away with the live feed they have turned their backs on all the opportunities it gives them with new social media activities such as twitter. What they have given us instead are twitter updates that tell us bugger all and finish when the housemates are still up.


Most people are not.


How is it more natural? A person has been evicted without a public vote. There has already been meddling with the nominations. Free passes have been handed out. People are being asked to vote in polls when they don't even know what they're voting for. The housemates have been given information from outside. The website is awful. How can anyone think that that is anything but shoddy?

I don't have time to keep arguing this. Channel 5 make mistakes last year we all know that. Viacom took over the channel and their influence will only start taking effect soon. Channel 5 are just getting rid of the old commissioned stuff. They're being rebranded towards the end of the year too, and I'm expecting Big Brother to get rebranded with the channel.

Right. But if it is going to get a makeover, I want people involved to know what some of us have been hanging on for, for years. If I didn't want the show to succeed I would just give up on it altogether.

Ive had to say something here now because your rants about live feed are getting on my nerves,

Yes Live Feed would boost ratings in my opinion but can you please stop ranting and raving about it over and over every post is the same from you now.

How about start a thread so you can discuss it and stop clogging up the ratings thread with constant bashing for zero live feed.

A ratings thread seems like the place to discuss it to me, seeing as I believe it to be one part (and only one part) of the problem contributing to the poor figures.

Oh no this is awfull

Simple fact of the matter is we haven't got sport or anything to blame for these ratings. Simple disinterest in the civilian format is the only reason. No amount of live feed is going to change that. It's only the hardcore viewers that watch it anyway. Have we even had any ratings released for the live feed we've had this series?
It's a shame because it's a good series so far - it feels different because it's not screaming and slanging matches yet, which the previous series have been.

I know people who would be described as casual viewers who would watch it later on when there was nothing else on and often through the day. Obviously it's never going to be a massive amount at one moment during the day, but the total of individuals who used to watch throughout the day would probably have been high and in doing so they would be much more involved in the show. I remember when I was very young, friends and I would come home and stick it on and leave it on like you have the radio on in the
background.

There is a disconnect between the viewers and the show (and there are reasons for that beyond the live feed). That isn't there with the Celeb series because people already know the HMs to some extent. When you put 16 fresh faces in and only have 45 minutes a night - a lot of which is spent on stupid twists - it's difficult to get to know any of them. If you don't know or care about the HMs the show is going to struggle. That just seems obvious to me. I would know the name of every housemate within 2 days and have a good sense of how I would feel about most of them. Nowadays, unless its someone pushing themselves forward like Helen, I never feel like I know them.

I appreciate your posts Beetlejuice unfortunately there are a lot of confused people on this forum that are so desperate to cling on to the shell of big brother that we see now that they would try and defend it no matter how bad things get.
They are doing it out of misguided loyalty which is honourable of them but their is no doubt you are are correct.

This thing barely resembles BB anymore and it hasnt since live feed 24/7 was axed there is only one direction the show is headed and it makes me sad to see C5 wring every drop of blood out of it before they toss it aside like a grotty rag.
I gave up arguing the case ages ago.
It saddens me to see how accepting the "fans" have become.

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1.08M Includeing +1

As I said still million people still ALOT of people. UK Populatiom 70mil. US is 310mil. Thats around 4.3 fourfold.
BB16 US got 7 million with a country of 310million if you do a forefold on that compared to UK You'll get around 1.5-2.5million.
Think the BBUK team just need a overhaul if they havent recently. BBUS is growing no reason for UK to not follow trends etc. the US BB has dipped to 6million. Thats a 1.5 mil fourfold compare to UK. It really doesnt seem that bad as reality TV is dying thanks to Netflix etc.

I'm really holding out on the official figures. Myself and many others never watch TV live, I work until midnight most nights so I always record it. BB10 had awful viewing figures for the first 4 weeks but grew and grew throughout. It's been a slow start but I'm really warming to this series.

Great to see this awful series get these ratings. Channel 5 have ruined BB.

Hopefully it did decent last night, brilliant highlight show, really loving this series! :cheer2:

I doubt it will be much different last night. Now if those of us who watched it post on social media about how great an ep it was word could spread around and improve tonights ratings.

Seems like great episodes do make a difference. First of all, the 9pm show got 1.03m, which is low and only 20k up on the night before BUT as people were talking more about how good it was on social media, it picked up 144k on +1, the highest +1 showing of the series (launch got 130k). So, with +1 last night got 1.17m.

Not great but 90k up on the night before. Hopefully further rises tonight and for the eviction which I'm hoping is around 1.3m.

Was it on a 9pm yesterday? I fell asleep strangely at 7:30, only wine to lie down! Thats a good +1 figure.

Nope. 10pm. It's certainly more impressive then as launch +1 started at 10pm, last night's +1 was at 11pm.

yeah, thats good! Hopefully it will continue to rise

Not bad :clap1: 144k on +1 at 11 is a high rating

Great +1 rating, especially at 11pm! Hopefully tonight gets a rise given how positive people seem over last nights highlights.

It's amusing that people are applauding such a poor rating. The fact that it only got 1.03m on first showing just confirms the disillusionment people feel. It's very likely to drop below a million on a consistent basis soon.

As for it getting better figures thanks to social media spreading the word of a supposedly good episode (rather than the same people who enjoyed the episode watching it again), I suspect some new viewers may have been put off by the childish screaming.

But imagine social media spreading the word of things actually happening as they happen thanks to a live feed. Imagine the response to the BB5 and BB9 "Fight Nights" on twitter as it happened. Imagine the massive bust ups with Helen going out live. Things got quite busy just from them posting heavily edited videos after the event on the forums and twitter. Now though, I can't be bothered keeping up with things on their naff website, I don't even know if they're updating their youtube channel and the twitter feed is pretty much pointless. The show continues to be some sort of Frankenstein's Monster version of Big Brother.


Edit: Just checked the youtube channel. Last update 18 hours ago. And it's hardly been updated before that at all. Piss poor.

Normal BB doesn't get high ratings. Only CBB does, so if it stays like this it's fine. :)