I'm not sure reading it is compulsory.

It is obvious the attack was on LGBT people because the attack was to a gay bar.

If it was a racist attack they would attack to a place which has a big profile of that race or if they wanted to attack muslim people they would attack to a mosque. Or if they only wanted to make a regular terrorist attack they would attack to a big place.

Like i dont understand why some people are like "uggh it is just a normal terrorist attack it has nothing to do with lgbt"

So if he had attacked a straight nightclub would that make it an attack on straight people?

Why do such distinctions even matter?

The Killer knowing that Club
let him murder more
he knew his way around it.

No it wouldnt because straight people dont get targeted because they are straight, if they are targeted the reason is other than their sexual orientation.

It does matter because hate crimes are motivated by these distinctions. In a perfect world it wouldnt but the world is far from being perfect.

It wasn't a hate crime. It was a terrorist attack.

The breaking news on tv now is that he was gay himself and used the club to pick up men. How does this bode with the gay community now. Seems like the ISIS connection has been downgraded as a cover to maybe a simple case of jealousy or a mental disorder or shame, who knows

It was a hate crime. Are you just trolling because you have nothing else to do or what?

It was both.

What exactly is a "straight nightclub"? Regular nightclubs don't cater specifically to heterosexual people so I'm not sure what comparison you're attempting to make.

Oh lord I'm going to need to be held back if people on here start questioning what this means for the LGBT community if it's "one of their own wot dunnit".

I'm not sure I know what point you are trying to make. The orlando one was a terror attack and all those other ones were most likely gang related crime.

America has a lot of shootings but the vast majority of them are black on black gang killings.

I think the gang issue needs addressing, rather than the guns.

You say that like it doesn't say that in the bible too and many Americans still believe it.

You get confused due to your own ignorance on the subject.

I agree that the bible says it too. Where did I say otherwise?:shrug:

i would wager he was brought up that being gay was bad and that he was gay

just my thoughts

Breaking News:

Arrest of accomplice expected

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/wftv...ting/340918422


I think this will put to bed the idea that he was just a gay guy in denial. Looks like it was an organised attack with more than one person.

This.



The original video has been taken down, but there's a clip of it in that link.

So a gay guy did this to his own community? I wonder how that will sit with the likes of Owen Jones.

I think the difference between what the Koran says and what the Bible says is that it's only really fundamentalist Christians and Jews who believe that the interpretation that God hates gays is literal. Whereas it's widely believed in Islam by even moderates that homosexuality is an abomination.

Then why isolate one holy book as denouncing gays if they both do, also by your fuzzy logic would that not mean all Christians hate gays too?

Why would gays want to help Christians...Why are there gay Christians?

Wow. :facepalm:

It is an LGBT attack.

Some people don't like seeing the LGBT community as victims though as it's apparently "looney left" to see it that way according to some people.

Hence why the only thing they can do is make it about Xenophobia and Racism as to why ISIS would attack a Gay Bar.

LT is this you?... :/

Can't it be both?