18 pages and no lock, I think as a group we are moving forward airing our grievances in a mature and adult fashion ..how long can it last :hehe:

They have plenty gossip. They just forget what they heard by the time they're on their second cuppa. :hehe:

I record the conversations so I don't miss a trick

I thought that was Jane Fonda for a second. :omgno:

A Zulu says yes.

It wasnt sarcasm it was dissapointment tbh yes youve mentioned before that you know nothing of it but there was plenty of info going round the forum and most members noticed the many multis and the sort of stuff that was posted by them so it is kinda hard to believe that you were completely unaware of any of it.

I was not aware of what went on, not all of us are on 24/7, not saying you are josy, but lots happen all over forum every minute.

You wouldn't have needed to be on the forum every minute.

Given what he did it was a big thing on the forum for a long time.

Still don't know what went on!

I liked Salman too,I have no idea either what went on other than it was something bad as he was banned,which begs the question why are some that were banned allowed back and others aren't ? surely a ban should mean a ban. and whatever happened to Apple? I liked him/her too

if we have learned one thing in this mult-ranging thread, its that the mods and admin are trash and we should usrp them and run this shambles ourselves equally. do away with names and senoirity and just be numbers

A new utopian socialist dawn


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I will be number 1, Marsh can be a number 2

That's fair enough. Just saying it was an ongoing thing for a long time.

Not a one evening thing where the argument was deleted before morning so anyone not online would've missed it.

Here for this if we get to enslave the former mods.

:joker::joker: not sure number 2 is a rank I'de want,LOL

To be fair I had no idea about any of it (until today) either, probably because I'm not in GenChat / Private Threads / Chat.

It sounds like what happened is a long way beyond the usual forum stuff, though, IMO he's lucky to just be banned from a forum :shrug:.

Very lucky. I think it came incredibly close to being a police matter tbh.

Depends on what the actual members in question did really doesn't it. I don't want to go into the behind the scenes stuff so will use a real life way tyo try and explain that decision :laugh: I believe you are a teacher or work with kids? So this example should make sense, if I write it right :laugh:

A, B, C, D and E are a group of friends. The group of friends decide to pick on F. A is abusive towards F over a period of time, culminating in A physically attacking F. B, C, D and E will lightly taunt occasionally, or maybe encourage A to be nasty. Would it be fair to punish all members of the group in exactly the same way? All should be punished for their parts, yes. But IMO, A deserves a harsher punishment.

The analogy is not perfect, or even entirely representative as I don't really want to drag it all up again. Just trying to explain why some bans are longer than others :laugh:

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Yes, most staff agree that every once in a while, its useful to just let members thrash it out among themselves rather than locking or deleting and that. I came to the thread late so missed most of it, but I agree with the other staffs decisions to leave it to run a bit as its overdue tbh. And it seems most posters in this section have had their say. And bar a few obvious baiting posts, its gone pretty well I think :laugh:

Serious debates should really be an area where differences CAN be worked out with dialogue to be honest. Yes, it gets heated. This is why we do not tend to moderate quite as harshly in this section as others...as its entirely natural to get a bit worked up in topic that you are very passionate about.

Well what do you expect when the other side of the coin keeps implying you were stupid or duped to vote for brexit? :shrug: Saying we are leaving get over is a pretty tame response to being called an idiot IMO.

Its exactly this kind of tit for tat stuff that should stop. Its that rubbish thats ruining this forum. Yes both sides are guilty at times too.. (though specifically on the brexit thing, I think most voters in general were unaware on what they were actually voting for due to the ridiculous media campaigns built on lies)

Its actually painful for me to read this forum at times, as I remember how decent it used to be and now half the posts seem to be 'ner ner you said this about me so I am saying this about you' rather than much actual reasoned discussion on stuff. This is partly why I took the hardlined reponse to moderation in here, which did result in some actions that may have been OTT at times and clearly didn't work given I ended up flouncing in the mod thread a few days ago and claiming I am not longer modding this section at all as everyone just ignores me :joker:

I hope, and this may be overly optimistic, that since this thread has cleared the air a bit and let everyone speak in depth, and also mods to explain a little of quite how moderation works...maybe this section can go back to being half decent. And from now hopefully, stop the tit for tat stuff. The bickering and pointless posts ruin this section. I don't think its fair to lay the blame on any few posters. Or on either 'side'. there is a huge difference between debating, and bickering.

Of course several people have grown weary of her posts! Her posts have led to a 20 page discussion. Me saying that barely makes me a bully, it's evidently entirely accurate. there are actually far worse (and more accurate) ways to describe brillos posting style but I reframed for the sake of it, you on the other hand... You personally not being bothered by (at the best) baity childishness or (at worst) actual racism is up to you.

Don't see anybody else on this forum ever be accused of racism, not even banned members really. So maybe we all need to have a think as to the single reason why that may be. The answer will shock you.

No idea about any of it TBH. :shrug:

I doubt anyone called you an idiot. I've read most of those threads and the worst I've seen anti-Brexiteers come up with is the suggestion that people were conned by the likes of Boris and Nigel. Nobody regardless of what side you're sitting on can disagree about the lies. Whilst there may have been comments about stupidity, why would anyone take that as a personal slant against them? Those who voted out all had their own reason for doing so. Talking about those reasons shouldn't be a sore point.

I voted out and I've never felt insulted by the anti-Brexit crowd on here, so what are you seeing that I'm not? :shrug: