im glad about it to.

It has, but I'm the sort of person who once I pick up a book I need to finish it, and as yet I haven't found the time to sit down and get stuck in. It might help if I could tear myself away from this forum!

Ah yes, it's one you won't put down. Well log off and get reading then :tongue:

and James Bulger was 3 weeks shy of his THIRD birthday FFS.

this.

Lol, I will soon seeing as how I was on here till nearly 5 this morning!

No, I'm making the point that killing them would be a completely disproportionate punishment relating to the crime.

I don't see what point you are trying to make here.

Let me get one thing straight, what the two boys did to Bulger was absolutely despicable, abhorrent and disgusting, it's awful what they did to him and I am in no way trying to condone, justify or excuse Venables' and Thompson's behaviour.

But at the end of the day they were 10 years old. At that age they are young, susceptible, naive and not fully aware of the severity of their actions, even though they might have know they were wrong. The mindset they had back then is not the same as it is now, when they are adults who have gone through a process of rehabilitation, which admittedly may not have been completely effective with Venables. To hang someone for what they did when they were 10 would be completely unjust imo.

I am amazed how anyone can overlook that fact kazanne,also jedward you are near spot on, In one of our lectures the indicative statistics for abusers having had a 'bad' or troubled past is 6.7 out of 10. Near spot on your 70%

The troubled and bad past should not however be in any way an excuse to sexually or otherwise abuse Children or murder them.
It can be a reason but never a justification in any way to try to negate the abuse.

There's something I can agree with you on :p

I think we all could likely agree with that, I think this has been the best thread I have ever come across.

i agree that theres no excuse for killing or raping someone.

bump.

:laugh2:

whats so funny about bump?

I just found it funny that the thread was being bumped after only twenty minutes of inactivity.

His name is James,NOT Bulger at least have a bit of respect .

Such good rehabilitation one is back where he belongs for child porn charges!no wonder people get angry over this.If people weren't so lazy and did their jobs properly then we would not need to be calling for the death penalty as people would be satiated by a life in prison sentence!

You seem more intersested in taking 'pops' at Jedward fever than the real subject here.

I always refer to people who I dont know by their surname, I'm not on first names terms with him, I dont know him personally so I wont pretend to do so by calling them "James".

Well, he was obviously not rehabilitated fully so shouldnt have been released yet, but at least he hasnt killed again and Robert Thompson has kept out of trouble.

I wasnt taking a pop, I thought he was making a joke by bumping it, I genuinely didnt realise it was serious.

i dont mean to bring back some tough times kazanne but i want to show how bad them bastards was.

they skipped 3 police stations where they could have easily dropped him off until his parents found him,am i right in saying this kazanne that after killing james bulger they then put him on a railway track where the train ran him over?

Haha I read this article then saw the pic of nasty Nick in your sig... if only...

Yeah sick.

dreamindemon is full of this sort of stuff.

Yes,a lady stopped and asked what was wrong with him as he was upset and had a mark on his forehead,they told her he was their little brother(how crafty was that)another lady was going to take him to the police station herself(Oh if only)but her friend did not want to hold her dog while she went as she was scared of it,ironically enough James was killed not very far away from a police station!!!and yes they laid him across a railway line and covered his head with bricks!!!he was run over by a train and i dont want to go into details but there were TWO scenes of crime.

Good god. I can't read that. It makes me cry

This is the best and most accurate link I can find on the net,for those who want to read it.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/n.../bulger/1.html

I honestly don't think I can.. I've got my 3 year old boy sitting playing here just now and even just reading what you wrote in your last post was very upsetting. I can't imagine what it must be like for the family :(

and yet people think scum like jon venables and robert thompson deserved to live.

I understand that,that is why I posted the link,it helps me as people can now make up their own minds without me posting it.

oh my God Kazanne, that is just awful. I bet those two women must think about and regret that every single day of their lives.

:hug:

Kazanne, my youngest son was around the same age as James at the time, and I remember weeping for days when they finally found him.

If I remember right those two pieces of scum had tried to abduct a little girl a bit earlier from the same shopping centre but were unsuccessful? It was quite obviously a premeditated kidnapping, and they deliberately targetted a little lad too young to be able to tell any inquisitive passersby what they were doing. Furthermore, didn't the psychologists try to mitigate the seriousness of what they did by saying that they were merely re-enacting a scene from Child's Play and were unaware of the harm they were actually doing? -what utter BS. Those children were 10 years old and knew full well the pain, torture and misery they intended to inflict on that poor little boy.

I've read as much as I can and the memories came back - I can't believe those two scumbags are still walking this earth and being protected - it leaves me speechless.

It's awful what happened to Bulger but we could get angry about many old cases. We need to look at ways of protecting the children, and make adults and children themselves be more aware.

Niam,38 people COULD have helped save James that day,but didn't want to 'interfere' ,from lorry drivers to passers by,they are called The Liverpool 38,one woman even saw them and James in distress and unbelievably "Drew her curtains"a lorry driver saw them give him a "persuading" kick and NO ONE did anything.

i could only read the 1st page as it is very disturbing,and especially 10 year olds doing it.

They tried to abduct a girl and another little boy but the mother saw them,they did TRY to blame Childs Play,of course it is BS ,they have to blame something, that film is nothing like what happened.Angus,They knew it was wrong hence the long trek to a secluded space.James first scream would have told them it was wrong and the way they tried to hide it,and people say they didn't know it was wrong,of course they did.They were also found to be sound in mind and body!!!!

yeah it was probably adults that find all children innocent.

Do you know what? life in jail AND lethal injection would be two good for those evil ****ers. They deserved to have been tortured and beaten every day all day for the rest of their lives!

:thumbs:

Thank you kazanne for reminding us what children are up against here and not just sometimes from adults either.
This is a heartbreaking detail of a truly rotten crime, it was detailed in response to jedward fever,who asked in the most mature and sensitive way if he was right in his recollection of what he had read as to this crime.

All some can do is take shots at jedward fever,because they have nothing constructive to ask,say or even have any ideas how to prevent these crimes at all.
Jedward fever shows insight, understanding and very deep thinking as to this topic, as we all should do really.
In fact he has been a great example all through as far I am concerned and he has made me think many times my own position as to punishments for these wicked crimes against children.

As to this post from kazanne, who has very strong feelings and interest in justice, real justice to be brought in for these crimes, I have to commend her on this post which should remind any decent people of the horrors children can be up against from others and also this passage from her is in my opinion the very best and conclusive demonstration of fact as to why for these crimes capital punishment should be the norm.

What is it with you and Jedward Fever? Do you know eachother or something?