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Legend killer 26-04-2014 08:19 PM

Also Keane is being proved more right by the day in regards to Fergie and his power trip. Why he finds the need to come out and publically and give a different view then the club officially gave regarding Van Gaal the other day is baffling.

I'm actually hoping Van Gaal does come purely to the fact because of his prestige and ego Fergie will simply not be allowed to stick his beak in like he did with Moyes. Not being funny Fergie you left this team in an awful ****ing state with your transfer policy in your last 3 years so please ****

Legend killer 26-04-2014 08:19 PM

Players playing for Giggs as they are afraid he will shag there wife or sister

Ryan57 26-04-2014 08:24 PM

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Legend killer 26-04-2014 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 6816085)

Should have been more concerned NEVER talking to Ashley Young's agent and speaking a bit more with Pogba's when he was at the club rather then sticking his beak in outside it

Legend killer 26-04-2014 08:30 PM

Too many glory hunting fans wanting heads as soon as success is not being achieved smh. This was always going to be a transitional period are you going to cry when we don't win the league again next year. SMH should we be so low in the league OF COURSE NOT but I would say that is a lot more down to players like Fatty.Ashley Patrice Rio , Cleverly , Tony , RVP playing like utter tripe. The performances vs Bayern earned Moyes a clean lease of life for next year easily forgotten that if Danny could hit a barn door and if Fatty wasn't a waste of space could have quite easily beat Bayern

Ryan57 26-04-2014 08:36 PM

Moyes is tactically inept. He pulled his trousers down and was happily raped in the ass by Pellegrini and Rodgers. Away to Everton, Martinez knew how to beat him easily. He never had the dressing room so what use would more time of been?

We'd of been rebuilding a whole squad as so many disliked the useless twat. He never deserved the job. No other top team went for him and numerous rival fans saw it coming and they were correct.

Thank goodness he's gone. He can go and 'we played well', after getting beaten, elsewhere.

Edit: And Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden. It was like one big joke. A no mark of a manager along with wank coaching staff. Too negative to ever make it at a top team.

Legend killer 26-04-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 6816502)
Moyes is tactically inept. He pulled his trousers down and was happily raped in the ass by Pellegrini and Rodgers. Away to Everton, Martinez knew how to beat him easily. He never had the dressing room so what use would more time of been?

We'd of been rebuilding a whole squad as so many disliked the useless twat. He never deserved the job. No other top team went for him and numerous rival fans saw it coming and they were correct.

Thank goodness he's gone. He can go and 'we played well', after getting beaten, elsewhere.

Edit: And Steve Round and Jimmy Lumsden. It was like one big joke. A no mark of a manager along with wank coaching staff. Too negative to ever make it at a top team.

Need I remind you of Fergie's Wembley champions league final masterpiece easily the worst tactical performance of the last 50 years. Fergie is widely known as being pretty poor tactically FFS he let the fat waiter bend him over smh however what he had going was he was a good man manager which is the most important thing as a manager.

Moyes also had this talent go look at his time with Everton but even Gandhi would struggle to motivate slobs like Patrice Ashley and Fatty. Also unlike what some of you would like to suggest Moyes is very good at spotting talent brought in many many amazing players on a shoestring budget. Sure he ****ed up with Fellani saga but deserves some slack of having a new transfer team behind him. Fergie has DONE MUCH WORSE OVER THE YEARS Pogba Ashley Tony Blanc Djemba ****ing Djemba yet get's a lot less heat

Yes he brought in a rubbish team but if you think Mike ****ing Phelan would have made a difference you are sadly mistaken

Ryan57 26-04-2014 08:55 PM

Fergie gets less heat as he brought in a heck of a lot of good players. Silly to compare the transfer records of both as their years at the club, thankfully, are like chalk and cheese.

And this shoestring budget thing is a huge exaggeration. Has been cited constantly for years about his time at Everton.

£15 million on Fellaini.
£11.25m on Yakubu.
£8m on Andy Johnson.
£6m on James Beattie.

= £40.25 million ON those players ALONE.

Jurgen Klopp total cost of Champions League runners up = £35 million. That is what you call a shoe string budget.

Locke. 26-04-2014 08:56 PM

Formby hall hotel has been invaded by 2000 scousers, Mourinho is being carried down the street

Legend killer 26-04-2014 09:09 PM

Players like Merrilas(sp) Coleman were bought for pennies (coleman was 200k I think) and would walk into this United team that Fergie left. Moyes was also a lot better at getting value for money once a player leaves

I can tell you one thing for sure Bringing in Young to replace Giggs Tony to replace Ronnie and letting Pogba go is a dam site worse then Moyes bringing in Fellani who was targeted by a few big teams and is one of the first name's on the team sheet for one of the best countries in world football.

Fergie did bring in some great players but it's not as if these were un earthed gems no one had heard about. Roonie Eric and Roy(3 biggest signings) were all known about and chased by many team. The fact he let Pogba go and when he did bring in players no one had heard about Djemba Djemba worryingly they were god awful

Moyes showed signs which should have given him another year. The fact

A. Addressed our midfield as wank and tried to do something about it Woodward to blame for last summer mainly

b. Actually went after WC talent ala fab thiago Mata unlike Fergie in his latter years

c. knew Evra was rubbish and tried to replace

D. promoted youth if you think Adnana would have got look in under Fergie take a look at Pogba fiasco

Brother Leon 26-04-2014 09:10 PM

Don't bother Ryan. You are talking to someone that wanted Moyes to replace Fergje years ago :joker:

Inb4LolzPogbaLolz

Ryan57 26-04-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 6816568)
I can tell you one thing for sure Bringing in Young to replace Giggs Tony to replace Ronnie and letting Pogba go is a dam site worse then Moyes bringing in Fellani who was targeted by a few big teams and is one of the first name's on the team sheet for one of the best countries in world football.

Fergie did bring in some great players but it's not as if these were un earthed gems no one had heard about. Roonie Eric and Roy(3 biggest signings) were all known about and chased by many team. The fact he let Pogba go and when he did bring in players no one had heard about Djemba Djemba worryingly they were god awful

Moyes showed signs which should have given him another year. The fact

A. Addressed our midfield as wank and tried to do something about it Woodward to blame for last summer mainly

b. Actually went after WC talent ala fab thiago Mata unlike Fergie in his latter years

c. knew Evra was rubbish and tried to replace

D. promoted youth if you think Adnana would have got look in under Fergie take a look at Pogba fiasco

Fellaini targeted by big teams yet if he was sold tomorrow not a single big one would come in. Arsenal, luckily for them, chose not to sign the useless piece of crap.

A. Addressed it as being wank yet signs a wank player to fix it. Good one, Dave.

B. Went after world class talent yet put in a useless bid for Fabregas. And he didn't go for Thiago, he decided against him.

C. Tries to replace Evra publically, good move. Does he replace him? No.

D. Promoted youth. One player? Yet ignores Zaha, Fabio and Lingard.

I believe that's 5-0 to me now. Locke and Leon can confirm it.

Ryan57 26-04-2014 09:14 PM

This now makes it 31-0 to myself.

1. Negative tactics.

2. Useless team line ups.

3. Deems 89 crosses to be fine in a match.

4. 'We'll make it hard for them' before the Newcastle match. We're Manchester United, ffs.
'We aspire to be as good as City'...

5. Blows £27.5 million on an average carthorse in midfield.

6. Dithers on Thiago Alcantara then loses him.

7. Cuts off the deal for Ezequial Garay.

8. 'It's like we're playing against the referees as well'

9. 'We're 5 or 6 world class players away from winning the Champions League' Says that in September, that's really going to inspire players.

10. Sticks his cock in Rooney's arse and bows down to him, with no balls to ever sub him.

11. Takes the champions from 1st to 7th.

12. Deems the fault(s) to be everything/everyone barring his useless tactics.

13. 'I think there was a lack of mental toughness' after the Fulham game. Lack of mental toughness from players who have done something in their career won Premier League titles and Champions Leagues... as opposed to a man who's career highlight is a Division 2 title.

14. Everton improve in his absence, we go down hill. Ironic much?

15. Blows £37 million on Juan Mata when he's a player that wasn't needed and puts him on the wing. Nice move.

16. 'I think any manager would of struggled with this team, even Sir Alex'... really, David? You think Jose or Pep, two people who's tactically knowledge couldn't be written down on a postage stamp, unlike yours, would of struggled?

17. Plays Ashley Young.

18. Installing a 'high tech scouting system at Carrington which includes iPads and analytics, yet has nothing to show for it

19. Getting worse as the season goes on.

20. Trying. So much 'we'll try' yet so little trying actually occurred.

21. Outdated training methods.

22. “I wanted to give everybody a chance to play”

Wilfried Zaha, Fabio da Silva, Anderson, Nani, Shinji Kagawa, and Hernández. Gave those players all and excellent chance.

23. Thrashed by City, twice.

24. Training methods are 'how can we stop the opposition' rather than 'how can we beat the opposition'.

26. And last, but not least, diabolical football.


I shall leave the topic there as I feel David has enough on his plate without me adding to it. And you're one of the few fans he has left, so I don't want him losing any of the 7 of you.

Brother Leon 26-04-2014 09:17 PM

LK getting slaughtered as Per.

MTVN 26-04-2014 09:18 PM

Pretty comprehensive that, Ryan wins

Legend killer 26-04-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6816571)
Don't bother Ryan. You are talking to someone that wanted Moyes to replace Fergje years ago :joker:

Inb4LolzPogbaLolz

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MpHzyRF5d7...Paul+Pogba.jpg

"Scholes Giggs Clev and Fat Ando are all better then Pogba. Not as good as he thinks he is and will be forgotten very soon"

"Fergie was right to play Rafeal and Park ahead of Pogba"

Black Dagger 26-04-2014 09:23 PM

You also missed "we aspire to be like City"

What a beautiful moment that was.

Black Dagger 26-04-2014 09:24 PM

Oh wait no, it's #4

Legend killer 26-04-2014 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 6816572)
Fellaini targeted by big teams yet if he was sold tomorrow not a single big one would come in. Arsenal, luckily for them, chose not to sign the useless piece of crap.

A. Addressed it as being wank yet signs a wank player to fix it. Good one, Dave.

B. Went after world class talent yet put in a useless bid for Fabregas. And he didn't go for Thiago, he decided against him.

C. Tries to replace Evra publically, good move. Does he replace him? No.

D. Promoted youth. One player? Yet ignores Zaha, Fabio and Lingard.

I believe that's 5-0 to me now. Locke and Leon can confirm it.

A. Wank yet is FIRST NAME ON TEAM SHEET for one of the best football nations. Wank yet is an improvement on every CM Fergie left at the club bar Carrick who has been just as rubbish this year

b. Bought Mata who is genuine world class so I don't see the point in trying to suggest he didn't go after WC players lol facepalm. Put in a bid for a world class cm PLEASE CONFIRM when Fergie last did that FACEPLAM

C. Yeah no doubt publically trying to replace Evra had a negative impact on his play and the reason he stopped defending LOOOOOL. Funnily enough his crossing and final ball improved this year

D. ONE PLAYER you act like that's a bad thing??? If Fergie had the same attitude Pogba would still be at club SO AGAIN WHAT'S YOUR POINT LAD. Have you been watching Cardiff???? has been utter wank and been on bench most of time another poor Fergie signing. Is Fabio the same player who got no game time under Fergie likewise Lingard????

Poor poor stuff jesus Christ

Brother Leon 26-04-2014 09:29 PM

"He's not good enough to have a guarenteed starter clause on his contract and if that is what he is demanding then it's right to play Park etc instead". That was my quote.

Not even Ronaldo had a clause to promise him being in the first XI...never mind someone that was stinking up the reserves that season(you never mention that as his fanboy..weird) or league cup.

Legend killer 26-04-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 6816573)
This now makes it 31-0 to myself.

1. Negative tactics.

2. Useless team line ups.

3. Deems 89 crosses to be fine in a match.

4. 'We'll make it hard for them' before the Newcastle match. We're Manchester United, ffs.
'We aspire to be as good as City'...

5. Blows £27.5 million on an average carthorse in midfield.

6. Dithers on Thiago Alcantara then loses him.

7. Cuts off the deal for Ezequial Garay.

8. 'It's like we're playing against the referees as well'

9. 'We're 5 or 6 world class players away from winning the Champions League' Says that in September, that's really going to inspire players.

10. Sticks his cock in Rooney's arse and bows down to him, with no balls to ever sub him.

11. Takes the champions from 1st to 7th.

12. Deems the fault(s) to be everything/everyone barring his useless tactics.

13. 'I think there was a lack of mental toughness' after the Fulham game. Lack of mental toughness from players who have done something in their career won Premier League titles and Champions Leagues... as opposed to a man who's career highlight is a Division 2 title.

14. Everton improve in his absence, we go down hill. Ironic much?

15. Blows £37 million on Juan Mata when he's a player that wasn't needed and puts him on the wing. Nice move.

16. 'I think any manager would of struggled with this team, even Sir Alex'... really, David? You think Jose or Pep, two people who's tactically knowledge couldn't be written down on a postage stamp, unlike yours, would of struggled?

17. Plays Ashley Young.

18. Installing a 'high tech scouting system at Carrington which includes iPads and analytics, yet has nothing to show for it

19. Getting worse as the season goes on.

20. Trying. So much 'we'll try' yet so little trying actually occurred.

21. Outdated training methods.

22. “I wanted to give everybody a chance to play”

Wilfried Zaha, Fabio da Silva, Anderson, Nani, Shinji Kagawa, and Hernández. Gave those players all and excellent chance.

23. Thrashed by City, twice.

24. Training methods are 'how can we stop the opposition' rather than 'how can we beat the opposition'.

26. And last, but not least, diabolical football.


I shall leave the topic there as I feel David has enough on his plate without me adding to it. And you're one of the few fans he has left, so I don't want him losing any of the 7 of you.

Stopped reading we don't need a world class creative player according to you????

michaeljordanlaughing.gif

Legend killer 26-04-2014 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6816593)
"He's not good enough to have a guarenteed starter clause on his contract and if that is what he is demanding then it's right to play Park etc instead". That was my quote.

Not even Ronaldo had a clause to promise him being in the first XI...never mind someone that was stinking up the reserves that season(you never mention that as his fanboy..weird) or league cup.

Giggs Scholes Clev and Fat Ando are all better then him. Not as good as he thinks he is and will be forgotten about

Starting in a midfield containing Vidal an Pirlo and being WYPOTY suggest otherwise

Ryan57 26-04-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 6816595)
Stopped reading we don't need a world class creative player according to you????

michaeljordanlaughing.gif

6. Dithers on Thiago Alcantara then loses him.

Why would I list Thiago, a creative player, as something Moyes did wrong if I feel the team doesn't need a creative player?

32-0.

Ryan57 26-04-2014 09:46 PM

Constantly cites the midfield line to prove Leon was wrong, yet won't admit to being wrong about Moyes. You said we'd play pressing, attacking, football. When did this occur?

I feel me and Leon are being brought down a level.

Edit: I'm pretty sure we could name several times when every member on this forum has been wrong. Everybody in their whole life has been wrong numerous times. Makes no sense to keep citing what Leon said about Pogba.

Legend killer 26-04-2014 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 6816612)
6. Dithers on Thiago Alcantara then loses him.

Why would I list Thiago, a creative player, as something Moyes did wrong if I feel the team doesn't need a creative player?

32-0.

ISTHISREALLFIE.GIF WHY THE **** you whinging about Moyes signing a world class creative player in Mata then looool

This is the sort of nonsense you posted when you first joined fix up ffs


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