..I think this is quite disturbing, I just don't know how to title it, to make a general thread about whether people are too scared of possible repercussion, to offer help anymore...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...light-616.html

Yes maybe younger people worry it means they will
get the wrong repercussion

..yeah, you can kind of see both sides of it because although it's disturbing that a young child could be lost and no one offer help, if a stranger were to approach the child with genuine concern..(and maybe especially more so a male..)...that could be misconstrued in devastating ways...and maybe that's become the primary thought for many people...it's sad also because there are relatively few people who would have sinister intentions but the media often portrays otherwise...

A woman on LBC radio , just now
said she could see the camera crew
so knew it was set up.

She said she will take legal action if she is featured
in any way

..a lawsuit society..sign of the times, Arista...

Ammi,did you ever hear of the Liverpool 38? 38!!! people saw James Bulger in distress,one woman even saw him upset and drew her curtains ,one woman stopped them as James was crying only to be told he was their brother and they were right by a police station,one woman was going to take him there but another one would not hold her dog while she took him!! this happened all through his journey,IF someone had just intervened this tragedy may never have happened,so imo,I would intervene whether someone liked it or not,best err on the side of caution tbh.

jeez, I never knew that, that's awful Kazanne :(

..I knew there was a lot of people who had witnessed him being taken but I wasn't aware of the Liverpool 38..it's funny because I was thinking about James the other day in a thread about Madeleine McCann and the difference between leaving children unattended for several hours and taking your eyes off them for moments, which is all it takes for an abduction to take place...obviously what happened to James shocked a world and especially parents who knew the same thing could have easily happened to them and their own child...anyway, I think I'm getting off the subject..yes I agree, now I would always help but for the Liverpool 38..?...I don't think that it would have ever occurred to me that 'children' could have been so evil, so I'm not really sure if I would have felt assistance was needed...

All true Niamh,even a lorry driver failed to stop when one of the scum bags gave James a kick! absolutely tragic,how haunted would these people feel now.

..so they were abusing him as they dragged him away, I never knew that, Kaz...

Ugh I hate even thinking about that case, it's so horrific, probably the worst one I can remember of our time

There's a lot of things that people don't know about it ammi,when the woman with the dog stopped them she asked if he was allright as he had a bump on his head and was upset,and now I am upset,this always starts me off,but I was just highlighting the importance of stopping and being nosey if you have to,it might save someones life.

Definitely Niamh,his injuries were horrific and the scum still free to roam this earth.I can believe people passed those two kids as that seems to be our society,too busy,too rushed and too scared.

..yeah, I don't recall up until then another high profile case of such young people doing something like that and I think the age thing was a huge shock factor for everyone....


..I remember though when my youngest was around 3yrs, he had his first tantrum in a shopping centre...it was really shocking to us because he was such a placid child and hardly ever complained about anything...anyway, there was one of those little stalls that sell sweets..you know the thing..?...and it had these huge gobstoppers, they were all swirled with colours like a rainbow and he wanted one...the stupid thing is that it wouldn't even have fitted into his mouth because they were like tennis balls but maybe he wanted to throw it or kick it or something, which didn't seem like a good idea to me...anyway, he had the hugest of tantrums and kept running off and screaming and 'fighting' us when we tried to calm him...so in the end, I had to literally just 'pull' him through the shopping centre and back to the car and people looked but they said nothing...and even a security guard just walked by and smiled at me but didn't intervene...I was glad they didn't in a way because I was so devastated by what was happening and just wanted to get my son somewhere quieter where I could try to calm him but what if I had been abducting him..?....

..yeah, you're absolutely right Kaz, people should never feel afraid to intervene and I was thinking that before James, people would have maybe not thought children capable of what they did or anything at all sinister and maybe that's why they did nothing... but I didn't know that he already showed signs of injury though....

Nothing worse than you child having a tantrum in a shopping centre,if you tell them off you get stared at,I've always wanted to do what that woman does on that advert,get on the floor and have one myself,that would give them something to stare at:hugesmile:

..yeah, I think we've all felt like doing that occasionally..:laugh:...luckily that shopping centre thing was a one off, I think the gobstoppers had some magical spell over him..one of my biggest irritations and something that really annoys me though is when you can see a 'tantrum' building up with a child because they're trying to talk to a parent and are being completely ignored and you can see the frustrations growing in them until it kind of bursts...

I actually never remember either of mine having a tantrum, I'm not sure if that's because my memory is really bad(quite possibly) or I just had perfect angels :laugh: I do remember, Luke when he was 2ish running off with my keys and just before I caught him, he threw them away and said "You're too late" lol

..and he was right, you were..:laugh:...

Yeah :laugh:

I tried a new sub and I am not sure if I like it, :sad:

good morning

Top of the morning Mr. Mars :douf:

...maybe just stick to the main forums, Jess..

..good morning Roy Mars the Third, I hope you're well...