No offense Daniel, but you condone Pauline's behaviour, then say Tamara was Helen 2.0.

js.

You can't say it's fact because Tamara was in the house for nine days. You'd have to know what she would have been like for nine more weeks to say that she was any better than Helen. Based on the evidence we have of both from the first week, they were as bad as each other.

I disagree.

Helen and Pauline were far worse, in the first week.

It says a lot when even Ashleigh, Chris, Toya, and Matthew (the people who lived in that house) said the same thing.

Wow, we've gone from unpopular opinions to arguing over a dullard, from BB15.

I mean, pretty much everyone from BB15 is an objectively awful person and I can't even come up with 5 people I like from that series soooooo yeah

True.
Christopher is the only good egg, TBH.

(Perched for MB. claiming otherwise)

Ashleigh was a good person imo

Because Tamara barely interacted with any of them. Helen confronted most if not all of those face-to-face, Tamara kept crawling back to Helen to report to and bitch with her. Of course nobody in the house would say she was as bad as Helen - she excluded herself and her group from them, especially Jale and Christopher. She couldn't remember half of the other housemates' names when she was evicted.

She was bitchy.

Christopher >>>>

Christopher was perfectly nice, which is why I'm surprised you're defending one of the people who treated him the worst in the first week.

Everyone who has ever entered the show has been bitchy. :umm2:

Oh give it a rest, we've moved on from dullard and bully.

BB6 stop pretending you dislike Tamara when you clearly do from the amount of defending you do

Brian Dowling is the most overrated winner EVER

I was stating she wasn't as bad as Helen and Pauline.
Doesn't mean I like her.

I've admitted on countless occasions that I'm a fan of Helen, but not Tamara.

Christopher is one of my favourites.

The point of a forum is to debate topics, don't start coming for people and telling them to 'give it a rest' when they reply to your point and dare not to disagree with you.

(I haven't mentioned the word bully either but mmkay)

Brian Dowling is the best male host of the show :hehe:

BIB - I meant were comparing Tamara (dullard) to Helen (bully).

It's hard to have a debate with you, when you misconstrued most of what I say.
Anyway, moving on.

But Helen and her group (yes, that includes Tamara, quelle surprise) were horrible to Christopher at times, so I'm just confused why you also like Helen and seem to be sticking up for Tamara, unless it's from a detached point of view and you're trying to appreciate the characters for who they were. Which is a tough task where BB15 is concerned.

BB15 and BB16 are on the same level

BB14 is massively overrated

BB15 and BB16 are on the same level

BB14 is massively overrated.

You told me to give it a rest as we'd moved on from talking about bullying, That's fairly easily misconstrued as 'stop talking about bullying', no?

I have fair opinions.

I can see the flaws in my favourites. Unlike, some, who wouldn't dare to say a negative point about Toya or Ashleigh, even if the evidence hit them in the face.

Yes, Helen was a bully. I don't care. I enjoyed her as a housemate for different reasons.

I'm defending Tamara because, I genuinely believe it is unfair to say she was just like Helen and Pauline in the 9 days she was in the house. When that's not completely true.
But each to their own, I guess.

That does not mean I like Tamara. I prefer Helen, as she is superior. But, I know well enough that Helen was far worse in the first week.

Helen > Tamara we all know this

Moving on