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Kazanne 06-04-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9945130)
..yeah Smudgie is actually the worst Cherie...mind you I think she has a golden touch or something because I report her daily and she’s still here as cheeky as ever...

...seriously though...many often seem to say ‘I don’t tend to report’...which I rarely do either so I’m equally guilty of that...but then there’s also ‘why does it feel inconsistent when that person said and was equally wrong etc’...when that might have a bearing on that...

There are certain people who deliberately goad though Ammi,just so they can report , these are the ones I try to avoid and I've done ok haven't had a ban for a long time other than yesterday, but sometimes I just think sod it,lol

jet 06-04-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9945121)
....hmmm, but then if you don’t personally report posts, Jet...but others may do with a post of yours for instance....does that not go in some way to explain what is felt to be ‘inconsistancy’...it could be more which posts are reported while others aren’t..?...

I've only had a few infractions so it doesn't really bother me Ammi, I accept them if fair. There was only the one last night leading to the ban which I felt was unfair and heavy handed and I'm over it.
There are bigger issues unfortunately.

smudgie 06-04-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9945132)
....ooops, there she is...hang on, I’ll edit../..delete my post ...you creeping up on us Smudgie...

I must say, this is one of the best threads in a good while.
A lot has been explained how the system works.
Each and everyone of us can get a bit heated in a debate, it's just knowing where not to cross the line.
For me the line is crossed when it gets to slinging personal insults around or making snide remarks.:shrug:

No exactly rocket science.

Mystic Mock 06-04-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 9943137)
i always feel quite intimidated in sd, lots of intelligent people :laugh:

Don't worry Matthew, myself and The Truth have posted in that section, if we can then you'll do okay in there as you can't come off any worse.:laugh:

I'll stop posting in the thread for a bit now, sorry guys.

Jordan. 06-04-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9945129)
I've definitely noticed it a bit more lately on the SD section, it's always been a place for debates/arguments, but I don't know it feels kinda like members really dislike each other on there which I've never felt like that before when visiting that section of the Forum.

I'm hoping that it's just me being OTT as I can be like that sometimes.

It's been this hostile on here before but back then everyone involved was just given lengthy bans and told to deal with it and it eventually stopped, there's too much pandering and tip toeing around certain members these days.

Ammi 06-04-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9945135)
There are certain people who deliberately goad though Ammi,just so they can report , these are the ones I try to avoid and I've done ok haven't had a ban for a long time other than yesterday, but sometimes I just think sod it,lol

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9945136)
I've only had a few infractions so it doesn't really bother me Ammi, I accept them if fair. There was only the one last night leading to the ban which I felt was unfair and heavy handed and I'm over it.
There are bigger issues unfortunately.

...I recall there was a ‘mass ban’ once before, which I think you were here for Kaz...the chat thread wars..:laugh:...and Ben was accused of being a heavy handed mod as well...but it must be awful for a moderator when personal stuff is so continuous, endless and persistent as well...they’re only human as well and would get exasperated at times with us all...we can be quite difficult to ‘manage’ I think....

Ammi 06-04-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9945137)
I must say, this is one of the best threads in a good while.
A lot has been explained how the system works.
Each and everyone of us can get a bit heated in a debate, it's just knowing where not to cross the line.
For me the line is crossed when it gets to slinging personal insults around or making snide remarks.:shrug:

No exactly rocket science.

..yeah I understand Smudgie and for me as well with the personal stuff...but people will get personal as well as that’s human nature in specific personalities and responses will be made also...it’s moderating it all I think is the tricky bit ...because we as members can log off or stop posting in a thread or whatever...we have choices which moderators don’t have when they have to make decisions or respond to reports etc...

Kazanne 06-04-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9945146)
..yeah I understand Smudgie and for me as well with the personal stuff...but people will get personal as well as that’s human nature in specific personalities and responses will be made also...it’s moderating it all I think is the tricky bit ...because we as members can log off or stop posting in a thread or whatever...we have choices which moderators don’t have when they have to make decisions or respond to reports etc...

Most of the mods manage to respond in a fair and understanding way Ammi, I would have thought impartiality was a criteria for being a mod, it comes to something really when you are put off posting in a forum and feel intimidated. We might be able to log off and stop posting but members have feelings too and mods can make a choice as to how they respond to people,sorry but that's how I feel.No hard feelings here,just disappointment really.

Vicky. 06-04-2018 01:06 PM

I am closing this for now. I have like 200 posts or so that I need to catch up on and from a glance its gone pretty bad, with it being basically a witch hunt...was a nice convo for a while at least.

Might reopen in a sec but trying to do 236872346 things at once here so it might be a while

Vicky. 06-04-2018 01:08 PM

On second thoughts, reopening now, didnt realise other staff members had already been in talking about it all...and it does not look as bad actually now as it did at first glance

Ignore me :laugh:

reece(: 06-04-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 9944861)
I think I speak for many when I say this drama is distracting from the mods installing a like button and quote notification feature

https://i.imgur.com/iRB4IqF.gif

Important take away message :clap1:

Mystic Mock 06-04-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 9945139)
It's been this hostile on here before but back then everyone involved was just given lengthy bans and told to deal with it and it eventually stopped, there's too much pandering and tip toeing around certain members these days.

I know what you're saying, but even back a few years ago the debates had an element of fun about them.

Maybe the Forum misses members like Lostalex who would make the SD section more fun.

Kazanne 06-04-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9945184)
I know what you're saying, but even back a few years ago the debates had an element of fun about them.

Maybe the Forum misses members like Lostalex who would make the SD section more fun.

Whatever happened to him Mocky ?

Ammi 06-04-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9945174)
On second thoughts, reopening now, didnt realise other staff members had already been in talking about it all...and it does not look as bad actually now as it did at first glance

Ignore me :laugh:

..yeah we usually do, you’re an awful mod, Vicky...very ignorable...

Ammi 06-04-2018 01:24 PM

...:laugh:..

Rob! 06-04-2018 01:25 PM

Ammi causing drama? :love:

Mystic Mock 06-04-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9945187)
Whatever happened to him Mocky ?

I don't know, did he get banned?

jet 06-04-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9945188)
..yeah we usually do, you’re an awful mod, Vicky...very ignorable...

Reported!

See, I'm practising this reporting stuff. I could get used to this. :laugh:

AnnieK 06-04-2018 01:30 PM

I think its clear to see the trouble causers now......Miss Ammi and Miss Smudgie.....:laugh:

Tom4784 06-04-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9945201)
I think its clear to see the trouble causers now......Miss Ammi and Miss Smudgie.....:laugh:

Working on their permabans as we speak!

Kizzy 06-04-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9945057)
I try to be an impartial on this forum as possible, mainly because at the end of the day...its a Big Brother Forum and I have enough **** in my real life without having to deal with beef on here. However, from the last couple of days my observations are:

1 - There is a definite pack mentality from all sides. The other day in the Anti-Semitic thread when it kicked off, it was reported in the chat threads as kicking off and then a mass influx of people came into the thread which inflamed it further leading to the bans. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion, in real life people stick up for their friends but the problem comes when it is obviously happening and then people only see it from the other side.

2. People take a real bashing on here - just recently Brillo has had numerous character assassinations and now Dezzy is getting it. A lot of the people who are here supporting Dezzy saying it shouldn't be happening (and I agree it shouldn't on a public forum) are people who either took part or watch in amusement at the Brillo bashing.

I don't know what people get out of it - borne from frustration maybe but there needs to be a line drawn as the toxicity is getting worse on here and it used to be such a great forum.

Oh was that the issue? there was the usual tirade of 'oi you can't say that to my fren' without the slightest interest in the topic of debate... Thought as much.

Kizzy 06-04-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9945121)
....hmmm, but then if you don’t personally report posts, Jet...but others may do with a post of yours for instance....does that not go in some way to explain what is felt to be ‘inconsistancy’...it could be more which posts are reported while others aren’t..?...

I do I report insulting posts, and if the moderators agree then action is taken,
can't see any merit in taking abuse.
Of course then if someone gets banned there's the usual histrionics but I don't feel responsible in any way, if someone can't remain civil then they alone are accountable.

Cherie 06-04-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9945259)
I do I report insulting posts, and if the moderators agree then action is taken,
can't see any merit in taking abuse.
Of course then if someone gets banned there's the usual histrionics but I don't feel responsible in any way, if someone can't remain civil then they alone are accountable.



And no one nowhere has disputed that :laugh:

Vicky. 06-04-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9944853)
ould those edits/removals of specific posts etc be given a ‘one chance’ to the poster who made them to self edit or remove...like, what was ‘wrong’ with this post in terms of being insulting or personal to a member, you tell me..you go look, type thing, you go look at the ‘issue’ here and remove or self edit..?...could that be a possibility maybe...?...

I get where you are coming from, but the issue with this is that by the time the member chose to edit/delete, there will have been a lot of quoting generally...and maybe an argument will have sprung up about the edited bit and that...and its just not workable with how quickly threads can move on here.

...also :fist:

chuff me dizzy 06-04-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9945111)
But its okay for Withano to call Chuff's complaints aggressive, insulting and rude?
But okay, point taken.

Exactly .......


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