The past two episodes really have outshone the rest of the season tbh.

He was a gay in real life, Ryan could have got himself some titles!

Also, it kind of annoys me that Chibnall talks of this series being more "character focussed" despite the character stuff being very quite poor.

And it's quite jarring how he'll randomly insert "Character Moment No. 3" at points where it doesn't fit and it feels like he's just following a scriptwriting template (Ryan discussing his mum in 'The Tsuranga Conundrum') but then a moment which screams out for some connection and is a natural point for Ryan to express his grief for Grace comes in this episode when they arrive at a point where a young woman loses her Grandmother. Yes, I know Chibnall didn't pen this episode but he IS the show runner/head writer.

It's so slapdash it's actively annoying me.

Also, and I hate to say it, I'm sick of Jodie. The same scenes/monotonous dialogue over and over. I like her but she's not being directed/scripted well AT ALL.

The characterisation of the whole lot of our Doctor and friends is abysmal. I found myself wanting them all to bugger off stop getting in the way and let Alan Cumming and Siobhan Finneran carry the episode.

I gave up on this series about 50 years ago when they changed the actor !!


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Omg we love jokes from the 60s.

Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since Dvid Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

Not really its pretty much fresh everything

Sadly it's perfectly true ..

I don't like change at the best of times ..


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You look great for 80. :love:

60...


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She's extremely non-threatening, if anything. And that isn't a jab at her being a woman... she portrays anger as though she is in a panto. I just can't take it seriously.

While this episode wont go down as super amazing, it was decent enough. It's amazing what a few episodes without Chibbers writing does for the show.

Err you should watch Matt Smith just because he's excellent :idc:. Capaldi is good too though it took me half a season to warm to him.

Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

This is what I’m still waiting for. That moment. Its something that’s been bothering me from the start. We’re nearly 9 episodes in now something needs to happen.

Tbh the Doctor has become a bit of a background character in her own show.

I feel pretty sorry for Jodie, its hard enough being the first female Doctor, but she's also the worst written Doctor in the modern series too. She's a decent Doctor, if only they'd give her the proper material.

i liked the episode last night, Alan Cumming a good laugh as King James I :laugh2: legend :clap2:

mud alien zombies looked cool, great special effects and make up design


Jodie has her own style of playing the doctor, i think some of you just need to get used to the fact this is our first female doctor, while it Always has been a male doctor

The fact she's female has nothing to do with it. It's bad because it's poorly written not because she's a bad actress. Any potential male doctor shortlisted for this series would've struggled with this.

I had issues with Capaldi being sidelined in his own series too. But this time it's not even to service a story/character arc with the companions.

The whole lot of them feel like extras. It's not really the number of companions either, we've had several people on the Tardis at once before.

Even bloody Journey's End managed to give good focus to about 12 characters!

The writing is abysmal.

How Tosin Cole gets cast in anything is beyond me. The accent just makes it worse!

This.

I have no issue and think the one good thing Jodie has done is prove the Doctor is kind of genderless. The character has always been played neutral in that respect. And her being female is not even an issue.

The writing for her, however, is nowhere near strong enough.

I feel bad that she's being branded a bad actress - because with an amazing script she's really shines. He performance in Trust Me was incredible, and I've seen some of her short films on YouTube that are amazing and her diversity of character is brilliant.

Also I think the fact she was never a fan of the show and had only watched the odd episode has hindered her. David, Matt and Peter had all grown up with the show and/or been massive fans. Not sure about Christopher, but I'd assume he was the same.

She said she was gonna do a binge of them all after this one airs because she doesn't want to be influenced by the other actors but instead she's kind of just taking traits that have already been done without realising, instead of filling the blanks and creating her own version of the Doctor.

I could barely understand him last night.

i was more distracted by Alan's funny voice :laugh:

he still is a legend, after James Bond's Goldeneye Boris ''I am Invincible'' Gryzhenko :clap1: :clap1:

No! This series is basically a complete reboot

It was a decent episode but I'm really hoping that the rumours of Chibnall's exit prove true, he is a woeful writer and the series, aside from a few high points, has floundered under him.

One thing that's starting to really bother me about Jodie's doctor is how the writers seem intent on making her seem incompetent half the time, she can barely control the tardis, she's scattered and seems to get lucky all the time and they've given her none of the control that the other doctors have and to give the first female doctor that kind of characterisation is a critical mistake as it just feeds into the criticism of casting a female doctor in the first place.

I thought the stuff about her gender was well handled in this episode but they really need to start writing her as they would any other doctor, let her have her big intimidating moment where you think she could destroy armies with a flick of her screwdriver as well the more human side that Jodie's shown herself to be good at portraying.

I predict, kinda like after Capaldi's first season, they may very well change Jodie's characterisation completely and I'm here for it. Chibnall's take on the doctor is limited and I want to see what Jodie can do when she isn't limited by such a crappy showrunner.

I think the companions need an overhaul too. Keep Graham as he is the only one that works well at the moment and give more stuff to Yazz, the actress who plays her is pretty decent but even in her own episodes they tend to sideline her.

Ryan is a mess from both an acting and writing standpoint and his character being unable to name a single thing he brings to the team in the last episode was apt. He can't act, he adds nothing aside from cliched and poorly timed character 'moments' and his role so far seems to be pointing at things and stating the obvious.

Yeah it was def a mistake having 3 companions, especially for Jodie's first season. 2 would've been enough

Billie Piper is returning as Rose for a radio spin-off!

Can she rihturn to the actual show? Miss ha!

We want miss Donna back as well! I don't care how they do it, but I want her back!

Her being unable to control the Tardis I can forgive as it's pretty much a trope of the show that the Doctor doesn't 'drive' it well and it has tendencies to control itself.

But, yeah, in the actual stories it's getting really frustrating that she doesn't seem to know much about anything until she waves the magic sonic and it somehow tells her a ridiculous amount of information because the writers use it lazily to answer any questions.

Kind of strange really because in Tennant's first series I did roll my eyes a bit at how smug and arrogant the Doctor was about knowing things about everything they encountered.

The biggest crime this year is the lack of imaginative storytelling.

Chibnall being more "human drama" would be fine if that wasn't naff too. His dialogue is awful.

Just watched this latest episode last night. Bit worrying that pendle is like 5 mins away from where I work!!

i am excited for tonight's ep :flutter:

Here for the Grace the Frog spin off

weak episode

:(

Worst episode yet

That was bizarre. Not Moffat returning and writing under a pseudonym.

The Flesh Moths were a genius idea though. Really creepy. Ribbons was good too.

It was ... okay. She somehow seemed more "Doctorish" than she had in the rest of the season. Graham is still the best thing about it. Like a lot of episodes this year it feels like it should have just been 45 mins.

I'm not surprised this was directed by Jamie Childs - despite the mediocre story it was the best directed and best looking.

Low-key enjoyed that