I'm wondering if this referendum wasn't just a way to make us think it was our decision... I dont think it was.

Yes possibly, there's a fightback going on both here and in the US, but will it be enough?

Hmm I don't think I can get along with that, and I love me a conspiracy theory.

I really do not think anyone at all, not even the most ardent leavers* predicted the vote to go how it did.



*Case in point, farages quote in my sig, when he still thought the vote would go against him :joker: Which suddenly became 'the vote is binding and final, anyone who thinks otherwise is just a monany twat who doesnt respect votes!!!1'

But the lies we were told, 350m for the NHS.. Turkey joining the EU... farages poster with the 'hoardes' of refugees. They played to every fear and everything we care about. The use of AI , targetted ads constantly bombarded with disinformation, or no information (brexit means brexit)

The farage quote was a warning, if it had been the opposite way there would have been as he said challenges made. It was angled for leave in my opinion, look at the issues with postal votes going missing or being stolen...
The dodgy funding and overs pending of the leave campaigns. The issues expats had not being eligible to vote.

If there was not direct intervention, there was certainly indirect intervention in favour of leave as far as I see it.

This should be the best Halloween ever. Can't wait!

A zombie lol how scary

Omg a witch ahh

The value of sterling woah spooky

A skeleton eek

Please, pretty much anyone with any power in the UK was horrified by the referendum result - the government, the civil service, the security services etc. None of them wanted that result

Great point, Arista.

And the ERG?..

A quarter of Tory MPs, most of whom have never held any significant roles in government?

They have become important as a result of the referendum result but actually did not do that much to bring it about

The right wing media have been hell bent on brexit , high court judges were pilloried as enemies of Britain... Bojo said eff business! ... somebody really wants brexit, don't tell me these people just have the interest of the public at heart because that would be the biggest lie yet :/

Rare photo
John Bolton talking Brexit deals With PM Johnson
yesterday.

I'd rather stick with Europe than trump

Any day of the week for me too.

There is no chance that a trade agreement between the United States and Britain will pass Congress if Brexit undermines the Good Friday peace accord between Ireland and Northern Ireland, the speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, has said.

“Whatever form it takes, Brexit cannot be allowed to imperil the Good Friday agreement, including the seamless border between the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland,” Pelosi said in a statement.
The Guardian

Shouldn't it be our govt doubling down on that?... but noooo we're not and that's totally fine apparently :/. I think this is a prime example of an English attitude to the rest of Britain, and we wonder why Scotland want out?.... We don't give a crap about Ireland or NI, that's obvious or we would be the ones reassuring them that the agreement between us is protected and respected. It's not, and they're not!

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''we are going to come out on october 31 whatever happens''

:umm2: the way they put that, makes it seem UK is gay after their october 31 coming out

yes I believe we will be :laugh:

There is no way on this earth that Conservative MP's will vote against the government if it means that Corbyn will be PM. That behaviour is only going to increase the chances of a no deal brexit

The man is nuts, 'I'll fight for a new referendum' ..sure Jan

Another candidate put forward could bring attraction to this idea.
A change only to bring about a general election and halt a no deal brexit on 31st October by seeking an extension until after said general election.

If MPs are serious about stopping no deal unless it has the voters consent.

Then this is a way out.
Refusing to tolerate for a period of weeks only, even Corbyn as PM is perhaps hasty.
This could stop a no deal scenario, and get a general election.
Where Lib Dems can canvass to remain.
Labour will have to decide for remain or leave as our stance.
Johnson or the Cons. can present his no deal at any cost to the voters.

This isn't as daft an idea as it at first sounds actually.