He was acting like a 12 year old, as per usual.
He was annoyed and jealous, with a bruised ego.

I think its a good thing though he thought to much of himself anyway, though im not sure thats a defence mechanism of his...

When he feels uncomfortable or worried about somthing he acts the big man.

Hes quite mentally immature..

Marcus was mentally abusing Noreen, she should not have let it come to that, she needs to know her own mind and not allow others to influence it.
A prime example of this is the media and advertising and soaps - people's freedom of mind is being taken away and people cannot even see it. It is becoming a sad world where we need others approval and opinions before we make our own. Do what you need to in life, you come in this life alone and you leave alone and as long as you don't harm another and kill you should do what you have to do.

Now that shes broken free of him, i dont want either to go yet, i find his sulking and tantrums good tv

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You're absolutely right but I would imagine being in the Big Brother situation it must be so much harder to act the way you normally do. I would love to say that if I was in there I wouldn't change a bit or let anyone else influence my decissions but can anyone really say this with absolute certainty unless they've actually been in the situation?

Marcus was nothing to Noirin outside the house. In the house I think she strung him along for her own ends until it began to get out of control when Marcus became obsessed with her. If Noirin hadn't allowed it to happen he couldn't have done it. I suspect Noirin has got herself into this type of controlling situation before. She's not the strong woman she'd have us believe she is. I think she's probably the sort of woman who uses her sexuality to boost her own ego which is dangerous if she chooses to play this game with a man who has his own insecurities which Marcus obviously does.

You know he say's he chases Noirin as he has nothing else to do,

How does act in the real world?

Let's say in a few months time he is unemployed sitting in mammy's sitting room ,bored and playstation is not working..he sees a pretty girl walking down the street.Does he then say to himself I have nothing else to do why don't I chase this girl.

he then approaches the girl telling her she is beautiful and that he fancies her,she laughs it off and tells him she's not interested.He continues to do this everyday for weeks asking her to give him hugs to which she tell's him he is making her feel uncomfortable.He also starts to show signs of aggression when he sees her talking to another male.

In the real world that girl would get a protection order against him to which he would most likely ignore and end up in prison.

I think this guy really needs help

well Marcus has always been correct hasn't he. He was so on it that he missed completely Noirin and saivash. He is moody now because he can't believe he got it so wrong.
he is such a numpty

I think Marcus has probably acted like this before but outside a person could more easily walk away. Marcus said in a conversation (can't remember who with) that he has been treated in a certain way because of the way he looks (his face). He's said that drawing him in then pushing him away has happened to him many times and friends have a name for it (the roll or something similar).

I agree 100% that Marcus is indeed mentally abusing Noirin. He has a you have rightly stated broken her down over the last few weeks, he has told her what to think, if she doesn't agree with him, he goes in a mood and keeps on at her till she does agree. If she has a thought of her own her tells her that she is wrong and calls her names, to her and behind her back, because he is so annoyed that she has had a thought of her own. He wants to own her and if anything she does or says is not in agreement with his way of thinking, she pays the price. Okay Noirin, is no angel but lets remember, she is young and inexperienced and between Sree and Marcus, the have made her doubt who she really is and what she really wants, and in someways she has been ignorantly pandering to them and re-inforcing their behaviour. I hope Noirin breaks all ties with him, he, in my opinion needs to speak to the psychologist, and I suspect this is a theme in Marcus's life reagrding women.

I honestly think that Noirin's beauty is more of a burden than an asset for her... She was bored inside the house for a long time and the reason why many of the guys befriended her was because of her looks...

It's all down to context. If this had been somebody else, it would be rightly viewed as character assassination and bullying, but Noirin knows what she is doing and Marcus sees through it.

While you may be right about Noirin "knowing what she's doing" with the men in there, I still think that the way he treats her in there is not right. He gets upset and rude to Noirin because he told her stuff, that were proved right but she didn't do what he told her when he told her to do it, however, what about when almost everyone in the house told him "Noirin doesn't fancy you" and he said "No there's something between us" they were all proved to be right so in fact he's a hypocrite, it's ok for him not take other peoples advice, even though they're right but if you don't take his advice then you're an idiot and not worth being friends with!! :mad:

I agree, although i would not give evidence in court to such an effect.

He felt betrayed because her words spoke of agreement with him, yet her actions belied her words.

The thing is his words we're coming from a place of controlling Noirin, i.e dont trust Tom, she agreed with him, and yet Marcus knew that she wanted to get to know him.

I think this sums up the whole dynamic of their relationship.

She only agrees with him cos he calls her an idiot if she doesn't, I think she does genuinely fear Marcus and this was why she's been trying to keep him onside by agreeing with things he said all the time. You can see now that the situation she's in with him now is very uncomfortable for her and the very situation she's been trying to avoid all along!

The guy is mental, "my thoughts in here aren't my thoughts", "BB is like a computer game", "I fancy her but I don't fancy her cos we're in here" yeah everything's like a computer game where he pushes the buttons... The only person he heard words of truth from was Tom but Bea made him walk saying he's not in the triangle...

Agree'd

I think all those convo's Marcus & Noirin had in the Sofa room, had a common thread, him trying to educate her, he would tell her what people we're doing, then enter into an analisis of what their intentions we're behind their actions, this was all opinion at best, but it seemed to all as she had excepted it. I don't think she had and this became clear when she went against his analasis.

Teacher's do not like all their knowledge being rejected i guess, and Marcus held their chat's in great regard, pointing out that it was one of the things he felt gave him a chance with her, that 0.1% chance he had.

So ultimatly spurning his opinion on other Hm's meant his last chance with Noirin had gone.

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Agree'd

I think all those convo's Marcus & Noirin had in the Sofa room, had a common thread, him trying to educate her, he would tell her what people we're doing, then enter into an analisis of what their intentions we're behind their actions, this was all opinion at best, but it seemed to all as she had excepted it. I don't think she had and this became clear when she went against his analasis.

Teacher's do not like all their knowledge being rejected i guess, and Marcus held their chat's in great regard, pointing out that it was one of the things he felt gave him a chance with her, that 0.1% chance he had.

So ultimatly spurning his opinion on other Hm's meant spurning his last chance with him. [/quote]


Thats what pisses me off about Marcus, this notion he has that he knows everybody in there and what they're going to do better than they know themselves!! Tom was about the only one who called him out on this. If he's so wise and knows all this, how come he didn't know that Noirin didn't fancy him and was going to go off with Siavsah???!!!

Oh watching Marcus pacing around the pool, whilst Tom was in jail, saying, "i can predict what is going to happen a week in advance and it always happens the way i predict it" and watching Tom's face as he was saying it, was some of the best tv i have ever seen. I think it was that moment which inspired his leaving speech and his label "circus" Marcus being the ringleader and the others his performing monkey's.

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Typical control freak with that extra menacing touch on account of him not advancing from the cave man days yet :laugh:

Shave him I say

Priceless!! :thumbs:

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i was married to a marcus type,he was just as distructive mentally as bbs marcus,these people are cruel in the extreme..i'm not a noirin fan but what marcus is doing is abuse...simple as that,and should be given a bb warning.

This is what I've been trying to say, Just because people don't like Noirin it's ok but it's not!

Nobody ever talks about how marcus doesn't like to see people all down. He's been making sure Sophie's ok after Tom's bombshell, and he hated it when Freddie was getting bullied. I don't think Marcus is a bully, he just has a bit of a bolshy agressive way about him. He's not malicious, just a bit miopic sometimes.