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masonbason 30-07-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Hedgie
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your machiavellian view of life is disheartening :sad: I choose to hope that isn't always the case, and would rather be proven wrong along the way. I think Marcus feels the same way.
Perhaps, but I dont feel any ill towards someone doing something like siavash did. I would feel bad she was my real girlfriend and me and her were together for years. Heres something that happened to me, I started seeing this girl, we went on a few dates, we kissed and than after the 5th date, she said she fancied my mate. I said thats fine, thanks for being honest, and introduced her to him, and i moved on feeling happy for both of them. Its a different story that they broke up after 6 months but thats how it is.

In this case, marcus was hardly her boyfriend and he felt bad for what? [/quote]
He felt bad because he thought Siavash was his friend and Siavash knew Marcus was loved up with her. You don't do that to your friends. I don't understand how you don't understand :shrug: This is going round in circles. And Marcus hasn't held a grudge, he's been ok with Siavash, prolly cause he feels sorry for him. I'd call that a pretty big heart under the circumstances. [/quote]

I dont understand cause
a) Sree was in love with Noirin so according to your logic marcus and his big heart should have backed of.
b) Noirin told Marcus 1 zillion times, she didnt fancy him
c) Noirin told him she uses her beauty to get her way with men
d) She has even told him she is still in love with her ex.
e) People constantly told him to forget doing anything with her.
f) Its not marcus to tell who can do what with Noirin. She is not in his control.
g) Grudge? I dont know what you call his relationship with Tom.

All the above are facts, if you cant accept them, hey no probs.

Hedgie 30-07-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by masonbason


I dont understand cause
a) Sree was in love with Noirin so according to your logic marcus and his big heart should have backed of.
b) Noirin told Marcus 1 zillion times, she didnt fancy him
c) Noirin told him she uses her beauty to get her way with men
d) She has even told him she is still in love with her ex.
e) People constantly told him to forget doing anything with her.
f) Its not marcus to tell who can do what with Noirin. She is not in his control.
g) Grudge? I dont know what you call his relationship with Tom.

All the above are facts, if you cant accept them, hey no probs.
Straw man argument.
Marcus being upset with Siavash has merit of it's own, it has nothing to do with his alleged percieved claim to Noirin. The point is, his mate disrespected him, knowing how he felt. Whatever Marcus had going on with Noirin is incedental. The point is you don't make a play for someone you know your friend is crazy over. It's a mate thing, not a girl thing, thats why he's cool with Noirin and Isaac.

masonbason 30-07-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Hedgie
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Originally posted by masonbason


I dont understand cause
a) Sree was in love with Noirin so according to your logic marcus and his big heart should have backed of.
b) Noirin told Marcus 1 zillion times, she didnt fancy him
c) Noirin told him she uses her beauty to get her way with men
d) She has even told him she is still in love with her ex.
e) People constantly told him to forget doing anything with her.
f) Its not marcus to tell who can do what with Noirin. She is not in his control.
g) Grudge? I dont know what you call his relationship with Tom.

All the above are facts, if you cant accept them, hey no probs.
Straw man argument.
Marcus being upset with Siavash has merit of it's own, it has nothing to do with his alleged percieved claim to Noirin. The point is, his mate disrespected him, knowing how he felt. Whatever Marcus had going on with Noirin is incedental. The point is you don't make a play for someone you know your friend is crazy over. It's a mate thing, not a girl thing, thats why he's cool with Noirin and Isaac.
Yawn, ok this is going nowhere, by the way i dislike Noirin as much as I dislike Marcus. But they are better characters, and i mean just see who much we have been discussing. Do you think we could discuss this much about lisa and hira who are playing a game and cannot put across how they feel.

Hedgie 30-07-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by masonbason


Yawn, ok this is going nowhere, by the way i dislike Noirin as much as I dislike Marcus. But they are better characters, and i mean just see who much we have been discussing. Do you think we could discuss this much about lisa and hira who are playing a game and cannot put across how they feel.
You're going to dislike Isaac too then, he's got a few Marcus genes. I suspect a 2 man Jackass show if Darkhorse doesn't go.

I'd like to discuss Lisa, but bb isn't showing any, Noirin has stolen the show. It's a shame. The fact that Lisa is sitting on her Laurels remaining unnoticed till the final pi55es me off. This is the woman who was apparently a self confessed rebel.
I'd like to see both Noirin and Marcus stay, but that ain't the way the cookie crumbles unfortunately :sad:

dbfs 30-07-2009 11:42 AM

My take on this is that he is being true to himself he could have got up and hugged siavash and said ' all ok man ' and maybe earned himself a pat on the back - but he wouldnt have done that in the real world because he is hurting - so good on you marcus for keeing it real to yourself. I think he is also thinking you say I'm the main man and am a really good friend, in which case why didnt siavash say I fancy noirin to marcus and if I have a chance I am going to take her up on it, which is what he would have done if he was a really good friend.
Marcus is talking to siavash now because he is probably thinking now you know what I was trying to say about noirin - now your hurting mate the way I was. Hope this makes sense.


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