No no... they were kissing under the duvet again on last night's show, just before Isaac went in. They were making those 'cow pulling its foot out of the mud' squelchy noises... Yuk.

Originally posted by Callum.[/i]
The English language is the best in the world yet some fans seem to persistent to focus merely on "actions" to try and justify their point. [/quote]


That's because "actions speak louder than words".

It's quite a well known expression in the English language.

That's because "actions speak louder than words".

It's quite a well known expression in the English language. [/quote]

So it the phrase "I before E except after C". But the word "their" always contradicts that.

You can't pass of a phrase you didn't even come up with as your counter argument, it's weak.

The actions MATCHED the words. "I want to be friends with benefits" which means friends that kiss (and more) ...and then they kissed. Fail to see where Siavash would get confused, to be honest? :conf:

I think the important word is YET...she gave him false hope...Isaac or no Isaac she was never ever in a million years going to get with him.

Friends don't kiss each other at all unless there is beer or a spinning bottle involved (usually both)

...and the lottery numbers for tomorrow are...?

I think Noirin is a pretty classic example of Walking Damage. I would bet there is slot of damage behind the unconscious manipulation she lives by. Is that an escuse for running over people? No,but it is an explNation. I think love her or hate her you have to admit she isn't stupid, and watching g the show footage of herself will likely be a very painful revelation.I actually feel slot of compassion for her, issues indeed.
Isaac however, is just scum. Daddy indeed, he is the kindof predator who looks for damage like Noirins because it makes her easier to control, and that's what narcissists getoff on. Eeeuck,can we make him go away soon?

We kiss sober, some people do it, some dont, it doesnt make the girl a HO!

you and I both know its true

You do not kiss your friends. Unless you are drunk, playing a game, or ridiculously horny.

If you do kiss your friends repeatedly, they are not your friendS.


And Sree, marcus, Charlie Rod and co were also noirins friends...why no smooches for them?

And you especially dont repeatedly kiss friends you know are really into you

This is getting a bit stupid now and I am sure there are some 13 year olds who have just had their first kiss posting on here

Exactly. You know they are going to take it as more than friendship, so common sense says dont do it...simple. :shrug:

Personally I think she is a little bit stupid in some sense, naive stupidy maybe? she gets herself in situations and then can't get out of them, or stupid game planing which she has not thought out. I have noticed to she can get quite angry to when people view opinions to her that she actually asked for!

To Siavash she asked, what would you do in my shoes?, Siavash thought about it, and answered as if he was in her situation he would leave, she took it that Siavash telling her she SHOULD leave, and that is not what he meant IMO She got quite ratty then

Not stupid, unaware I think. Classic damage. I thought Freddy was pretty astute in his assessment of her last night after Isaac left. But it is not( or not just) some amazing sexual magnatism, but actually the ability to create a sense of focused intamacy. Thats what they all fell for. She can obviously make someone feel special, wanted, connected to her in some way. But she doesn't get that she is not entitled to do that just because she can. And she does it to get what she wants.
She is so focused on what she wants she doesn't hear the other persons real opinions or wants. When she asked that question of Siavash she wanted him to say " yea, not your fault what else can you do." But he actually was talking about himself and since everything for Noirin is about Noirin she assumed he was talking about her.

Noirin is like alot of folks who live in a one person world.

And it's always lonely in there.

But I am so glad to see the back of Isaac , he is just completely creepy.

no she kissed about 5 times or more and some of the times she wasnt drunk she was just using him she is a slut

She is more than a little dim, and very deluded, she was just on BBLB and still saying she only kissed Siavash once and then purely for her own entertainment. When someone spins things like this and re-writes history it is pointless talking to them as most housemates discovered.