Tell me the old, old story. :sleep::sleep::sleep:

When Freddie survived the first eviction Lisa rounded on him just after the result was announced and, completely out of the blue, told him not to get cocky and that all he'd done was survive a vote. They hardly knew each other, it was hardly her place to give warnings to anybody and her ungraciousness was shocking. She spent the next several weeks trying to isolate him (continually telling people not to talk to Freddie) and when she thought he was most vulnerable she set on him verbally. To Lisa’s dismay, Freddie continued to survive and when he was no longer isolated he turned the tables on her.

I don't think sexuality or homophobia have anything to do with it, Lisa undeniably bullied Freddie in an aggressive manner, and if it had been another person, Marcus for example, behaving like this would have instantly been called into the diary room for a severe reprimand. It is not about who is stronger but who is being manipulative and trying to undermine another. She definitely did this, she cannot argue with him intellectually so shouts and becomes aggressive.
I don't care remotely about her sexuality, I just know I don't like the character she is in the house. She seems to have taken on the role of house moral guardian purely by being the eldest female. She is so so wrong for that role.

lol ....old or not it's still true. Facts don't have a use by date jet.

:hello::hello::hello::hello::hello::hello::hello:

Do you honestly believe Lisa is a bigger bitch than Bea or Noirin?
If so, why ?

Because of her actions or because of the way she looks?

And simply because someone gets involved arguments does not automatically make them a bully or aggressive...

quite right and the very first week she shouted him down when he was trying to cheer people up when Sophia went. I knew from that moment she was compeletely up herself, domineering and out to pick on the weak ones

See above

Homophobia? I think you are probably the only person here who has taken sexuality into account at all -- not even (the majority of) the people that dislike Lisa really care about her sexuality or how it affects her appaearence or stereotypically, etc., including me.

I do believe she is a bully. Bullying is defined as persistent attempts to emotionally or physically harm somebody else. This is what Lisa did; she tried to down Freddie's social status by bitching about him behind his back to his and her friends, got in his face and became extremely aggressive during arguments. That is the sign of a bully -- not superiority or strength in ANY way.

Telling someone not to get cocky is not bullying.
Halfwit clearly is a cocky character.
No-one likes cocky, boastful people.
Lisa was trying to bring him down to Earth and make sure that his head didn't get too big. She failed miserably.

He has become unbearable. Over confident and cocky.
Traditionally, the kind of person BB viewers despise with a passion.

Yet because he is arch nemesis of the unattractive, rather unintelligent and communicationally challenged, lesbian Lisa he garners support amongst the homophobic.

In other words, exactly what Halfwit has done on many ocassions. The only difference being Halfwit has a far superior level of education and can articulate himself without appearing aggressive...

Do lies?

In earlier arguments Lisa was aggressive, there is no two ways about it. She was inches from his face and shouting at him that he was an a***hole. It was in the behaviour. The earlier poster was spot on, sexuality and homophobia do not remotely come into this (anyway, Freddie is bi) but Lisa was trying to destroy his social status, with some success at the time. They just don't like each other, and Lisa is forever trying to turn people against him. She was slagging him off to David this week, who to his huge credit, completely ignored her and said "I've got bags under my eyes again" :smile: Even he can see what she's doing now.
I will not defend Freddie for how he behaved this week, he was out of order. But Lisa has been in the past too, more than once. Let's not make a connection with homophobia that does not exist.

EXACTLY. They can't see that though, because they go by appearances.

If you don't like Freddie then fine - it's your opinion. However, I believe that any reasonable person could see that Lisa was extremely unpleasant and hateful. Maybe, like her, you are seeing something in Freddie that simply isn't there.

Incidentally, I don't think Lisa's lesbianism has any connection with her behaviour. Why she has such a chip on her shoulder is anybodies guess.

Freddy has said he is Bi-sexual so this whole homophobic BS is mute.

Not the mention the OP has said some pretty horrific things about Lisa yet apparently trying to defend her? :shrug:

GO Freddy, Lisa is a biatch! :cheer2:

Halfwit is CONSTANTLY bitching about Lisa (behind her back) to ANYONE who will listen.

Why is his bitching and plotting allowed?
Yet Lisa's is not.
Double standards?

We agree on that.
But it IS homophobia.
Butch dyke homophobia.
Let's not pretend it's not. Because it is.

just don't respond to this troll
this was her 1st post

It was a darn good, and true, first post then.

Freddie tried to out David on a single occassion, not multiple occassions. He is intelligent and thoughtful enough not to stoop to Lisa's level by, as you put it, "appearing" aggressive. Aggression is a big part of bullying. He's not a bully.

You mean ignore me.
Because I have valid points?

Valid point?
You only have ONE person supporting your claim and his creditials are hardly glowing.
Go away and get over being dumped

Halfwit has maintained a "hate campaign" against Lisa since their very first argument. Halfwit is a clever guy and has a tendency to patronize everyone around him, Lisa in particular. She is perhaps intimidated by that.

But he seems to be allowed a "free pass" when being vile about her. Which he is, frequently.

IP check please on h3llb1tch

The member could be Ahmed/Jet.

Anyway the OP is just twisted BS to try and save Lisa, also pushing others to hate Freddie..
BS poor tactics that always happen at these times, just twisted BS by few members that cherry pick what they want, twist it and throw the truth out of the window.

Whatever, mate. Whatever.

I do not support Halfwit.
I do not support Lisa.

But I do believe each side should be treated FAIRLY.
And hated for valid reasons.

If you want to hate Lisa because she is not particularly attractive or articulate fine. Do so. At least admit that's WHY you HATE her.

But don't make up **** about her being a manipulative, scheming, bullying bitch. She's not clever or scary enough to be any of those things...

Whereas, Bea is!