i dont recall calling anyone a rebel?out of those three i only consider marcus a rebel,as he has gone against the grain on a few occasions,however the point is they felt like not listening to big brother so thats what they did,the vocabulary used is irrelevant.. if they said "excuse me big brother,would you be so kind as to shuve ones rules up ones arse" that wouldn't have had the same ring to it..

and while it seemed a little over dramatic,i can see why being locked up in the sun may cause some discomfort,and they didn't feel that was fair..

also as a final point,while i may not agree with marcus/freddie some of the time,they have entertained with their personalities so that does render your post void.. rightly or wrongly,they are entertaining at times.. perhaps not to you,but to some they are big characters..

But Dennis was kicked out! and so should Marcus.

They simply need little individual tasks each day to win little things and give themselves a sense of purpose. Even Marcus said they need more little tasks just not ones that are over in 2 minutes. Just give them things to win access to activities, games, sports, things they can use for a bit that day and then they will wait to see what they will get the next time.

well yes i have seen others have an issue with them,but some have an issue with me.. i myself see ahmedfan as passionate and he does speak alot of sense,perhaps not something i always agree with but he doesnt usually just spout off some random profanity to get his point across..

an as i have said to others,this is a forum,i dont see why anyone would have a problem as this is not that relevant to my life,so if he grates on you for whatever reason,just steer clear of him,there ends the problem really..

Thanks tintedshadow for allowing people to have their own opinions without judgement. Some people call certain posters (like myself) out by name because they have a vendetta against them for not liking their particular favourite.
It's not cool, so thanks for diplomatic yet firm response to that. It is very much appreciated on my part. :kiss:

for vile behavior,not for tampering with a speaker.. thats a little rash,and then everyone would just follow suit and be sheep again,not free thinking individuals but housemates who arse lick in order to stay in..

if i was to kick marcus out,it would have been when he took his extreme obsession of noirin to the level of abusing the girl emotionally.. but he shouldnt be taken out of the show for simply breaking a rule,besides that would probably just make a matyr of marcus and make him more of a "legend" on this forum..

Jet you know its not that. its the fact that you repeatedly called me homophobic for not liking lisa, even though i gave you a list as long as my arm of reasons that did not include her sexuality, which you deemed 'invalid'. So if you can call my reasons for disliking someone invalid and try to make out i am prejudiced, then i think I am within my rights to do the same back. Dont you?

Dont try to twist things.

Excuse me but they don't make things up, they say it how it is. Just because they don't agree with you, does not make them liars.

They have a problem because they don't jump on the lynch mob band wagon for hate of Lisa.

Are you honestly trying to tell me ahmedfan does not make things up?! LOL. Check their previous posts and then comment.

Especially one from yesterday, where he informed everyone that the arguement between freddie and bea was about something totally different that what it was and that the punishment was solely freddies fault.

Check his posts then comment :laugh2:

not a problem,however i doubt vicky has a vendetta,shes a sweety but anyways thats not for me to say..

And I dont hate lisa either, so wrong again :laugh2:

The three of them being disrespectful to BB is not then followed by them being unthinking towards the rest of the houseemate.

Marcus has caved in before when threatened with punishment for the rest of the house because of him.

Also Siavash and Freddy do care about the others.

Yes at the moment it is us and them scenario.

But they were very entertaining tonight. While the others moaned.

I loved seeing them make a stand.

The other houseemate should cop on to the fact that this is a gameshow and they are there to entertain.

Yeah, I explained above my problem with jet. I think its fair to say I have a point in not liking them and saying they twist things. I may be a bitch at times, but I am certainly not homophobic :wink:

i saw that thread,and what he said in that thread was true was it not?he said just wait till tomorow to see freddies part in losing the food,okay perhaps the only half truth he told was saying it was solely freddie who had been responcible but personally,i figure he just read it somewhere so he just reported back what he read,he couldn't have seen the full show so from his side he was probably just speaking facts?

btw someone took away the karma i just gave you by - k you,so i shall + karma you when i can :hug:

Well, the other HM's were sunbathing in the sun....
And my point was that the 'rebelling' and not following it through afterwards by rebelling when ALL the HM's were punished (which would have been fantastic TV and showed guts) revealed to me that they were not the big characters that they portray themselves as.
I was referring to 'the rebelling' - not how entertaining they are apart from that - but to me, they are no more or less entertaining than anyone else. :shrug:

Hmm he reads a lot of things somewhere then...

Seems he is the only one with 24 hour live feed :tongue:


[Edit] Anyway, i see ahmed is now banned for his contiunal lies and abusing of other FMs. :dance2:

well the other house mates could go indoors at their leisure,and as freddie said he wasnt going to get enough hydration as the toilet breaks were few and far between..

yeah perhaps they could have followed through,but having been punished do you think that would be wize for them to then rebel some more?in the first instance they figure they would only get some jail time or individual punishments,when they saw they had their luxery budget taken,i suppose they figured rebelling some more would only rile big brother in to punishing the whole house again..

as gypsy goth has said,on occasion marcus has backed down when bb threatened to punish the house,so he's not a complete numb nut,i guess they just wanted to see how far they could push the boundaries..

well while i dont like marcus,he is a tad more entertaining then say david,or sophie imo

I'm glad you find her a sweety...I don't at all personally, but there are bound to be personality clashes on any forum where people have their favs, and different life experiences.

It's a mine - field! :shocked:

I'm sorry you were dragged into other peoples past conflicts - you don't deserve that.

Well anyway....BB is pretty exciting right now, what? :laugh:

lol... well hopefully he'l be back soon enough and you two can play nice some more :whistle:

He has broken far more than one rule! And his behaviour IS vile! He would only become some sort of a matyr to like minded people. There are many who would love to see the back of him before he actually does some real harm which I believe he is quite capable of. I can put up with the arse licking of some of the housemates and I can put up with being annoyed at them. Marcus is mentally unstable and is no good role model for anyone!

no not at all,nothing to be sorry for... infact it was me who involved myself when it did not concern me so if there is one who is wrong,it was probably me..


yeah i apreciate people will clash,cant be helped it just tends to detract from the topic and when things get personal,its a little tedious and unnecesary.. having said that on my first day on here i had much the same issue,but now i just allow anything negative directed towards me to pass me by..theres way more going on for me to take offence to anything on here..

What a complete nob chunk you are!!

They have been entertaining us for weeks...while the others just pull faces & biatch,Scheme & backstab!!

Call the coastguard & go & search for your personality !!!

Vicky, I have had you on ignore since the night you lathered into me with all sorts of accusations (much like the ones you are leveling at me tonight), but I have been alerted to your posts this evening and I have to say that at no time did I accuse you of homophobia. Rather, I pointed out the hateful homophobic posts about Lisa that were prevalent on this forum and you disagreed vigorously with me that any such posts existed. That was our disagreement, between 2 people! But you choose to continue a vendetta against me and you choose to keep bringing up my name and poking at me....I do get private messages when you do that...I have ignored you completely and left you alone. Why can't you leave ME alone?

my point was more that dennis had spat at another housemate,had marcus done something even remotely similar he would be out on his arse,but simply breaking a few rules hardly constitutes kicking the guy out,and if we kicked out every house mate we found distasteful we would be left with hira and saffia for 9 weeks.. marcus may be repulsive,but he still has a right to be in there..

i dont much like marcus myself,however he is not mentally unstable,he simply has his brain wired up diffrently,does things diffrently to you and i.anyone could do harm to anyone in that house given the right buttons were pushed,we all have breaking limits.. so its not so much about goodies and baddies,we all have our share of good and bad qualities,marcus is no diffrent.