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frankjr 11-08-2009 11:00 PM

Luanda - you are a disgrace to human beings.

Maybe just some of the posters on this thread are ignorant of neurological diversity.

Halfwit's reactions were not "drama" because halfwit was reacting in the way that he could best react with the brain that god gave him.

A severe dyslexic, he was flustered and unable to talk.

I found it quite admirable to be fair how he was able to disassociate himself from his physical reactions, telling himself and others, that it was his body that was reaction. He was very lucid and specific about the phrases that had been spoken to him, which showed him doing the opposite of being a drama queen - which is to otherwise conflate the facts and exaggerate, and deepen one's own upset through allowing the imagination to reauthor the actions that have just past.

I really felt for him but I hope he pulls through. He's a good guy at his heart, which is enough for me.

He is very different and a little odd due to his dyslexia but I don't hold it against him.

Luanda 11-08-2009 11:01 PM

Empathy has nothing to do with it. If a person can't stand a bit of criticism and turns into a snivelling wreck then he or she is a spineless piece of hopelessness.

shash 11-08-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Halfwit's conduct tonight was a disgrace to all men. He behaved like a big spineless excuse for a man, feigning panic attacks, sniffling like a big girls blouse and generally behaving like a spineless little schoolgirl.

The reason why? A female spoke strongly to him. Regardless of the content of the conversation she didn't threaten to kill him, kick him in the teeth or pull his toenails off. Bea just told him she thought he was an a**e.

Halfwit, get a backbone and be a man, pull yourself together you big girl.
what???

do you have a shard of ice where you heart should be?

this was a man being broken, not just by tonight's events but the toll of 9-10 weeks of cruelty, bitching, arguments and ridicule. That evil woman just went on for the kill and finished him off.

Jordan. 11-08-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Empathy has nothing to do with it. If a person can't stand a bit of criticism and turns into a snivelling wreck then he or she is a spineless piece of hopelessness.
:thumbs:

Moses1 11-08-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Halfwit's conduct tonight was a disgrace to all men. He behaved like a big spineless excuse for a man, feigning panic attacks, sniffling like a big girls blouse and generally behaving like a spineless little schoolgirl.

The reason why? A female spoke strongly to him. Regardless of the content of the conversation she didn't threaten to kill him, kick him in the teeth or pull his toenails off. Bea just told him she thought he was an a**e.

Halfwit, get a backbone and be a man, pull yourself together you big girl.
A very insensitive and unempathic post. He was clearly upset and when someone is upset to this level, I feel sorry for them. He is extremely insecure and Bea has been callous in her attitude, and, quite frankly, picking away at him mercilessly bit by bit.

Your lack of sympathy for a person who is so upset baffles me. It is irrelevent whether we like Freddie or not, but his feelings were genuine and he should not be made to feel like that.

Kazanne 11-08-2009 11:03 PM

i agree Shash,some people are just heartless and cruel

Moses1 11-08-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Empathy has nothing to do with it. If a person can't stand a bit of criticism and turns into a snivelling wreck then he or she is a spineless piece of hopelessness.
To call someone hopeless because they are oversensitive is just a nonsense. Imagine been in that place for weeks on end. Yes, he signed up for it, but he didn't sign up for Bea, and she has been chipping away at him.

To call him 'hopeless' is to finite a comment. I do hope you would not be like this if this was an occurence in real life. If you are, I do hope you're not in a job role where you need to care for someone!

Luanda 11-08-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankjr
Luanda - you are a disgrace to human beings.

Maybe just some of the posters on this thread are ignorant of neurological diversity.

Halfwit's reactions were not "drama" because halfwit was reacting in the way that he could best react with the brain that god gave him.

A severe dyslexic, he was flustered and unable to talk.

I found it quite admirable to be fair how he was able to disassociate himself from his physical reactions, telling himself and others, that it was his body that was reaction. He was very lucid and specific about the phrases that had been spoken to him, which showed him doing the opposite of being a drama queen - which is to otherwise conflate the facts and exaggerate, and deepen one's own upset through allowing the imagination to reauthor the actions that have just past.

I really felt for him but I hope he pulls through. He's a good guy at his heart, which is enough for me.

He is very different and a little odd due to his dyslexia but I don't hold it against him.
Nonsense.

Stop talking rubbish and making excuses. He is an immature fool who when he is challenged simply crumples into a mess. Dyslexia or any other convenient challenge you wish to add to the situation is nonsense. He is a moral weakling who is happy to judge others and when his little bubble bursts he crumbles.

Halfwit is a nonsense of a man.

Moses1 11-08-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Quote:

Originally posted by frankjr
Luanda - you are a disgrace to human beings.

Maybe just some of the posters on this thread are ignorant of neurological diversity.

Halfwit's reactions were not "drama" because halfwit was reacting in the way that he could best react with the brain that god gave him.

A severe dyslexic, he was flustered and unable to talk.

I found it quite admirable to be fair how he was able to disassociate himself from his physical reactions, telling himself and others, that it was his body that was reaction. He was very lucid and specific about the phrases that had been spoken to him, which showed him doing the opposite of being a drama queen - which is to otherwise conflate the facts and exaggerate, and deepen one's own upset through allowing the imagination to reauthor the actions that have just past.

I really felt for him but I hope he pulls through. He's a good guy at his heart, which is enough for me.

He is very different and a little odd due to his dyslexia but I don't hold it against him.
Nonsense.

Stop talking rubbish and making excuses. He is an immature fool who when he is challenged simply crumples into a mess. Dyslexia or any other convenient challenge you wish to add to the situation is nonsense. He is a moral weakling who is happy to judge others and when his little bubble bursts he crumbles.

Halfwit is a nonsense of a man.
Your anger and rather severe attack on Freddie, as well as your rather obsessive way of making finite, unjustified remarks, makes me think you have something to prove in your arguments here and are emotionally involved in someway. I do not believe someone would come up with such extremities rationally, so what is the personal history going on here, eh?

frankjr 11-08-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Quote:

Originally posted by frankjr
Luanda - you are a disgrace to human beings.

Maybe just some of the posters on this thread are ignorant of neurological diversity.

Halfwit's reactions were not "drama" because halfwit was reacting in the way that he could best react with the brain that god gave him.

A severe dyslexic, he was flustered and unable to talk.

I found it quite admirable to be fair how he was able to disassociate himself from his physical reactions, telling himself and others, that it was his body that was reaction. He was very lucid and specific about the phrases that had been spoken to him, which showed him doing the opposite of being a drama queen - which is to otherwise conflate the facts and exaggerate, and deepen one's own upset through allowing the imagination to reauthor the actions that have just past.

I really felt for him but I hope he pulls through. He's a good guy at his heart, which is enough for me.

He is very different and a little odd due to his dyslexia but I don't hold it against him.
Nonsense.

Stop talking rubbish and making excuses. He is an immature fool who when he is challenged simply crumples into a mess. Dyslexia or any other convenient challenge you wish to add to the situation is nonsense. He is a moral weakling who is happy to judge others and when his little bubble bursts he crumbles.

Halfwit is a nonsense of a man.
I'm sure they wouldn't find you an attractive human being to get involved with anyway, so no opportunity lost there. Who would you bitter cow?

Shasown 11-08-2009 11:19 PM

I would suggest before people start bandying diagnostic terms like Dyslexia, you actually look it up and learn a bit about it. interestingly enough he managed to get into Oxford, so that says a lot about him suffering from severe dyslexia doesnt it?

Freddie may have a few minor problems with being unable to take criticism from those close to him, he may feel betrayed, how he reacts to it is down to him.

He may have been faking it, he may not have, its down to the viewer to decide in their own mind. he does have a sense of the dramatic, remember the "I have no reason to disbelieve ...." speech.

One thing I do think though this Thursday should be his last night in the house, if he wasnt faking it, he needs to be removed for his own mental health, because if Marcus goes the wolves will move in for the kill. If he was faking it, then he needs to be removed .

frankjr 11-08-2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shasown
I would suggest before people start bandying diagnostic terms like Dyslexia, you actually look it up and learn a bit about it. interestingly enough he managed to get into Oxford, so that says a lot about him suffering from severe dyslexia doesnt it?

Freddie may have a few minor problems with being unable to take criticism from those close to him, he may feel betrayed, how he reacts to it is down to him.

He may have been faking it, he may not have, its down to the viewer to decide in their own mind. he does have a sense of the dramatic, remember the "I have no reason to disbelieve ...." speech.

One thing I do think though this Thursday should be his last night in the house, if he wasnt faking it, he needs to be removed for his own mental health, because if Marcus goes the wolves will move in for the kill. If he was faking it, then he needs to be removed .
That is also rather patronising. You aren't any judge of any of the piece of fiction you've written here.

1) you don't know on what criteria he entered Oxford

2) he has been quite adept at surviving up to now in hostile environment, and I suspect that has been his life story. He seems extremely resilient and not at all unresourceful - so to say that he has to be removed to before it gets worse is to prejudge the situation. He isn't suffering depression - he was however suffering a panic attack tonight.

You're just spinning crap basically.

fredrica 11-08-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Halfwit's conduct tonight was a disgrace to all men. He behaved like a big spineless excuse for a man, feigning panic attacks, sniffling like a big girls blouse and generally behaving like a spineless little schoolgirl.

The reason why? A female spoke strongly to him. Regardless of the content of the conversation she didn't threaten to kill him, kick him in the teeth or pull his toenails off. Bea just told him she thought he was an a**e.

Halfwit, get a backbone and be a man, pull yourself together you big girl.
Are you aware that the most brave of men cry it is the weak ones who cannot admit to crying as they feel it damages their male ego.

I would rather a man cry than pretend.
If you think that it is because a femaile spoke strongly to him, that he is crying that is not the reason.

Freddie has more backbone than any of the other hms in there.

He has been through things that none of the others could possibly cope with.

However I feel we all have our views on certain things and our own opinions on things too and I appreciate your opinion.

fredrica 11-08-2009 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shasown
I would suggest before people start bandying diagnostic terms like Dyslexia, you actually look it up and learn a bit about it. interestingly enough he managed to get into Oxford, so that says a lot about him suffering from severe dyslexia doesnt it?

Freddie may have a few minor problems with being unable to take criticism from those close to him, he may feel betrayed, how he reacts to it is down to him.

He may have been faking it, he may not have, its down to the viewer to decide in their own mind. he does have a sense of the dramatic, remember the "I have no reason to disbelieve ...." speech.

One thing I do think though this Thursday should be his last night in the house, if he wasnt faking it, he needs to be removed for his own mental health, because if Marcus goes the wolves will move in for the kill. If he was faking it, then he needs to be removed .
I hope you understand his problems because prior to knowing them,I found it difficult to comprehend too. It is not just dyslexia, which does not j ust concern writing it concerns many other structures of the brain. However this does not inhibit study it is nothing to do with that, My best friend when doing her degree had to use a computer as she was an extreme dsylexic.

I am suprised Freddie has managed to cope with the environment by this I mean the hms too.

Nevermind lets hope he is ok that is the most important thing isn't it.

Luanda 11-08-2009 11:40 PM

Are you aware that the most brave of men cry it is the weak ones who cannot admit to crying as they feel it damages their male ego.

Rubbish, all men cry but it is weak men who cry when they cannot handle a simple bit of criticism.

There is a difference, you know!

Shasown 11-08-2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankjr
He isn't suffering depression - he was however suffering a panic attack tonight.

You're just spinning cr*p basically.
Or he could have been faking it, incidentally who says he was suffering from a panic attack?

And I would seriously recommend you find proof he has dyslexia, and read up a little on it. He may have dyslexia, he may have related conditions but a lot of cr@p has been spouted about his "problems".

As for spinning crap, look in the mirror and wipe your chin it will dribble onto your top soon.

fredrica 11-08-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Are you aware that the most brave of men cry it is the weak ones who cannot admit to crying as they feel it damages their male ego.

Rubbish, all men cry but it is weak men who cry when they cannot handle a simple bit of criticism.

There is a difference, you know!
Oh I don't think I can generalise can you I am not Freddie and I am not you.

Lets hope that Freddie is ok.
How can I judge Freddie.

nanaimo 11-08-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Halfwit's conduct tonight was a disgrace to all men. He behaved like a big spineless excuse for a man, feigning panic attacks, sniffling like a big girls blouse and generally behaving like a spineless little schoolgirl.

The reason why? A female spoke strongly to him. Regardless of the content of the conversation she didn't threaten to kill him, kick him in the teeth or pull his toenails off. Bea just told him she thought he was an a**e.

Halfwit, get a backbone and be a man, pull yourself together you big girl.
**** :devil:

fredrica 11-08-2009 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shasown
Quote:

Originally posted by frankjr
He isn't suffering depression - he was however suffering a panic attack tonight.

You're just spinning cr*p basically.
Or he could have been faking it, incidentally who says he was suffering from a panic attack?

As for spinning cr*p, look in the mirror and wipe your chin it will dribble onto your top soon.
Well there we are then we all know where we stand and what we feel.

SoFarSoGood282 11-08-2009 11:45 PM

The OP is talking through his/her ass.....
Many men have panic attacks it doesn't make them spineless

HarryRag 11-08-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luanda
Halfwit's conduct tonight was a disgrace to all men. He behaved like a big spineless excuse for a man, feigning panic attacks, sniffling like a big girls blouse and generally behaving like a spineless little schoolgirl.

The reason why? A female spoke strongly to him. Regardless of the content of the conversation she didn't threaten to kill him, kick him in the teeth or pull his toenails off. Bea just told him she thought he was an a**e.

Halfwit, get a backbone and be a man, pull yourself together you big girl.

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J-Rock 11-08-2009 11:51 PM

Luanda - now I know you are joking - if you thought tonight was just 'a simple bit of criticism' then you're seriously deluded.

I can't believe I have fallen for another completely waste of time thread again! I must stop!

Shasown 11-08-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fredrica
Quote:

Originally posted by Shasown
Quote:

Originally posted by frankjr
He isn't suffering depression - he was however suffering a panic attack tonight.

You're just spinning cr*p basically.
Or he could have been faking it, incidentally who says he was suffering from a panic attack?

As for spinning cr*p, look in the mirror and wipe your chin it will dribble onto your top soon.
Well there we are then we all know where we stand and what we feel.
heres an interesting starting point for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

Whilst its not exactly a medical handbook its a well written guide

Luanda 12-08-2009 12:02 AM

That wasn't a panic attack Halfwit claimed to be having. He was anxious and couldn't handle someone criticising him. Both he and Bea are self indulgent emotional *******.

Simple as.


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