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Honestly people, knock it on the head. |
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Sick of seeing these posts now. Panic attack or not, the fact is, he was very upset and angry that night and Bea is a cúnt.
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Yes, of course the patient's account of how they feel drives the diagnosis - but it doesn't determine the diagnosis! It is a lot more involved than that! Correct me if I am wrong - but I wasn't aware that Freddie actually stated that he suffered from panic attacks! Did he actually say that? I thought he said that he felt he might have one (or words to that effect) - which could just be an expression! Like you do when you say something like - after a fright - god, I think I may have heart attack! I have never said that he did not have a panic attack - only that I did not believe that he had! People have been speaking as is it was a fact! I still don't believe he had one - and until there is proper evidence of that - remain unconvinced! So excuse me for not buying into all the hype!! |
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Lets all agree to disagree eh?
He was upset, he was angry. Bea upset him, she ripped into him and told him things he didnt want to hear. You believe what you want to believe and other people have that right too. |
I suffered from panic attacks. Really bad ones. There is, like a lot of things, a sliding scale. Some people have panic disorder and they are in a 24/7 state of panic. They lose bowel and bladder control, they lose clear vision and hearing, they are in a constant state of believing fully that they are about to die. They cannot communicate properly and they scream and scream.
Freddie's "panic attack" was very mild. A lot of people use the term Panic Attack to describe something that is not really a panic attack and it's only until they actually experience what a panic attack really is, that they understand. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. |
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I don't think your argument hold up because in the early weeks he was being attacked by people he knew didn't like him. He considered Bea a true friend and that is the difference IMO |
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Think of a cars 'RPM' gauge and when it gets in the 'red' is when we have what we call a 'Panic' state. Another good point that needs to be considered here - plenty of people just use this term loosely. Freddy feels very very intense anger and is fighting to suppress it and says "Your voice is causing me to have a panic attack". Okay. Well this is just what he chose to call it and isn't necessarily sure of what the term is more properly used to describe. Like you say - lots of people may not even be aware they are describing what is really moments of brief 'fright' or high anxiety (in a way they are correct), but, Have full-on massive 'panic attacks' 8 times a day with full onset and maximum onset of the responses and then you really know what the 'real deal' is like heh. *again, I hate saying panic 'attack' as it is NOT an 'attack'. The actual problem is the inappropriate and unnecessary timing and situation. The actual response itself is not 'attacking' anyone but is your bodies way of trying to PREVENT you from attacks and to take care of you and make your body safe from attacks. Anyways. Still insist "your voice is giving me panic attacks' goes down in this years Season Best Bits lol |
Bea was dreadful and he was as anyone would have been upset
- like all emotions panic is subjective to the individual - if he felt panicked then it was REAL for him. Its not about proving one way or another if he did or didn't have a panic attack using some sort of textbook bench mark. Its about accepting rightly or wrongly at that moment he felt 'upset/angry/whatever' and referred to that as being panicked - so for him it was real. |
I'm so sorry I opened this thread.
ElProximo - I'm calling you out - you are just here to antagonise. You have good articulation skills, so try to make it sound like you know what you're talking about, but essentially you are just out to get a reaction. Well done. (still like the pic though) Chuckyegg - 'very mild' panic attack indeed? - we know you are a Freddie hater. You now also come across somewhat arrogant in your posts - I would watch out for that. I have had huge panic attacks during public speaking and wanted to run away, yet carried on and nobody batted an eyelid. So I'm afraid you don't own the textbook on panic attacks anymore. Whatever you think, he was suffering properly. ElProximo enjoys that sort of thing; You simply cannot recognise it. All just a bit of fun aye? |
I can't believe how many people have taken him literally! I may not have been watching properly, but when he said it I just presumed that he was insulting her in an overly-dramatic way (& I wouldn't judge him for that either).
If he'd of said that to me I would have been bemused and would have just walked away, I wouldn't have taken him seriously though:shrug: |
An excellent example of a panic attack was at the battle of Balaclava on the 25th October 1854, during the Crimean War, thinking that the Russian Naval Guns were going to be removed from the area an order was sent to the Light Brigade to prevent the guns from being withdrawn.
Due to this being of the utmost urgency at the time the message was hastily written and the messenger who carried the message was also incorretly briefed. Hence the light Brigade actually attacked the wrong objective charging through the most heavily defended area as opposed to bypassing it. They did however engage the russian positions in depth after "running the guns" but due to a lack of support were forced to withdraw back down the valley. Again suffering withering fire. Now that was a real Panic Attack |
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so, you are calling me out but on a 'bluff'. But here is the thing. I am not doing a great job articulating. This is because I am over-tired and have poor sentence structure, but, I do a much better job finding people who have severe panic 'attacks' and have had them for years, and, going by what I'm telling them they will see immediate relief and in short term have massive decreases and eventually cease to have panic 'attacks' anymore. and, I will make it clear that this is them doing it. Not me. They discover the truth (and often they knew it anyways and just realised it) and then they took control. I don't have to tell you nothing. I am well aware of this and get to thank God when I personally enjoy seeing someone go from being too scared to leave their bedroom to watching them travel on international flights to go mix in large crowds, easily drive in traffic and even begin public speaking. I already have my 'validations' and 'confirmations'. But one thing I definitely do NOT understand (despite theories) is why anyone wants to deny, doubt, argue and 'call me out' and challenge this so quickly and often with anger? Why is that? What exactly bothers you about this? Why do you feel some need to stop me and call me out about this? Seriously.. I really want to know? |
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