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frankjr 14-08-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I'm not gonna read ANY of that.

How the hell has she outsmarted anybody when she is a public hate figure?
Precisely. She is simply a highly reactive, emotionally retarded human being.

To say there was a sinister evil intelligence about it is to misunderstand the banality of evil deeds.

Prole 14-08-2009 11:24 PM

Some posters on this thread really do believe Bea is some kind of Machiavellian mastermind. I find it quite amusing that you are so easily impressed.

MaratSafinForever 14-08-2009 11:26 PM

The fact is, that this will only get her so far, she is popular in the house, but that isn't what this show is about as Fred demonstrated perfectly in the first 5 weeks.

She is hated outside, the fact she thinks she is doing well concluded by the fact she is popular in the house could bite her in the arse seeing as she will get one hell of a shock when the doors open on eviction night.

survivorfan 14-08-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I'm not gonna read ANY of that.

How the hell has she outsmarted anybody when she is a public hate figure?
Not too long ago marcus was a hate figure and pervert and tonight his a favourite!

Freddie was the odds on Fav not long ago and not he's out!

When she walked in and refused the task some thought she was this angelic figure with morals...now she is hated....who knows what will happen tomorrow with the public thinking ever changing :shrug:

setanta 14-08-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by Prole
Some posters on this thread really do believe Bea is some kind of Machiavellian mastermind. I find it quite amusing that you are so easily impressed.
I agree with you again Prole. She's just a vindictive fruitloop who actually truly believes every thought that originates within her head is completely true, even when it's in direct conflict with something she may have said 3 days ago. That's the most frightening thing about her.

charliegimbert 14-08-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by ElProximo
Bea saved Marcus tonight.
Bea made the public vote out Freddy,
and,
Bea has people like me and Terry convinced there is no good reason to vote out someone who has finally come along to be so thoroughly hated and I will say marveled at for her sheer sinister machinations executed so fiendishly well.

The OP has this spot-on. Bea just pwned the voters.
The amazing thing is that most of them still dont even know what she just did to them lol!
lol, elproximo must be biggest nutcase on this forum (after ahmedfan2004 and dennissabre of course that is...)

charliegimbert 14-08-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Prole
Some posters on this thread really do believe Bea is some kind of Machiavellian mastermind. I find it quite amusing that you are so easily impressed.
kinda tells something about em :joker:

MaratSafinForever 14-08-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by survivorfan
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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I'm not gonna read ANY of that.

How the hell has she outsmarted anybody when she is a public hate figure?
Not too long ago marcus was a hate figure and pervert and tonight his a favourite!

Freddie was the odds on Fav not long ago and not he's out!

When she walked in and refused the task some thought she was this angelic figure with morals...now she is hated....who knows what will happen tomorrow with the public thinking ever changing :shrug:
Listen, Bea is one of the most hated contestants of all time, she has produced MALICE. Marcus has never been like that. He has never constantly bitched and bitched and bitched and been a complete and utter hypocrite like Bea.

Freddie was favourite until SHE came in, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Fred fans out there will fecking hate her.

Online polls mean **** but on top of the fact anybody I've ever heard speak of her hates her, the polls have her down there with Lisa.

She's winning nothing.

masonbason 14-08-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by survivorfan
Ok, let me set the scene. Bea finds out she is going to be on BB. She knows Freddie is the Fav and once she is in the house she immediately makes friends with Freddie and they become very close. Now some of us who saw right through Bea early (while others thought she was a good person refusing to take part in the secret mission in favour of all people Freedie!) thought she was sucking up to the favourite to gain favour with the public so she cold ride his coat tails to the end and maybe finish 2nd or 3rd but.....she was actually playing a bigger and more complex game to take out Freddie!

Her plan was actually to get Freddit to like her or even fall in for her and lower his guard and feel comfortable with her. Now Freddie didnt help himself as he played into her hands and her plans by falling for Bea and started to get emotional and this made him lose focus and also his personality changed as he suddenly became Bea's lapdog who would defend her right or wrong (mostly wrong) when she was having arguments with others in the house.

Now once Bea had gained Freddie's confidence she suddenly turned on him which came as a shock with constant verbal attacks and tantrums and he completely lost it and just couldnt cope and started crying in bed and in the diary room and not been able to stand up to Bea and ultimately tarnished his image in the house and with the public. Maybe the damage was done already by all the bullying he had to put up with from Lisa's gang early in the show so he wasn't strong enough emotionally to stand up to Bea in the right manner so she brought out the worst in him or maybe she brought out the true Freddie but he just couldnt cope and just crumbled.

Marcus on the other hand stood up to Bea and kept his emotions in check and was able to show himself to be strong and sensible and i think the public saw that and he gained points which ultimately helped him to stay in the house.

So in the end Bea must be stoked to have just engineered the exit of the outright favourite by first gaining his confidence, getting him to lower his guard and then she stuck the knife in and now he's out.

Thats my theory anyway. Got to say that while i hate Bea got to respect her game play. She would do great on the US version of BB and even Survivor. :whistle:
You've got it completely wrong. If she was clever she would have continued to be friends with halfwit and ride into the finals.

She has gained nothing right now, in fact she will be out next week if she is nominated hence her initial gameplan completely backfired on her.

charliegimbert 14-08-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by masonbason


You've got it completely wrong. If she was clever she would have continued to be friends with halfwit and ride into the finals.

She has gained nothing right now, in fact she will be out next week if she is nominated hence her initial gameplan completely backfired on her.
absolutely true

survivorfan 14-08-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
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Originally posted by survivorfan
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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I'm not gonna read ANY of that.

How the hell has she outsmarted anybody when she is a public hate figure?
Not too long ago marcus was a hate figure and pervert and tonight his a favourite!

Freddie was the odds on Fav not long ago and not he's out!

When she walked in and refused the task some thought she was this angelic figure with morals...now she is hated....who knows what will happen tomorrow with the public thinking ever changing :shrug:
Listen, Bea is one of the most hated contestants of all time, she has produced MALICE. Marcus has never been like that. He has never constantly bitched and bitched and bitched and been a complete and utter hypocrite like Bea.

Freddie was favourite until SHE came in, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Fred fans out there will fecking hate her.

Online polls mean **** but on top of the fact anybody I've ever heard speak of her hates her, the polls have her down there with Lisa.

She's winning nothing.
Dont get me wrong no way is Bea winning the show....but she will and has already done some damage and while her actions will not make her the winner it will influence the outcome as done tonight.

If there was such malice towards Bea and given Marcus was and still hated by some how come the anti Bea did not help Freddie tonight?

Her game worked!

Maybe she will get an audience with the queen too and her odds will shorten just like Rodrigo :whistle:

fitz2k2 14-08-2009 11:38 PM

someone should slap her with a fish because bea stinks!!!

Jords 14-08-2009 11:41 PM

I absolutely agree, she tried to make Freddie look like the bad guy so she will gain popularity (know as the sympthony vote), and Freddie (the current threat) would lose popularity and get evited. The public suck, see how good he was on BBBM? Want him back in!

survivorfan 14-08-2009 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by charliegimbert
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Originally posted by masonbason


You've got it completely wrong. If she was clever she would have continued to be friends with halfwit and ride into the finals.

She has gained nothing right now, in fact she will be out next week if she is nominated hence her initial gameplan completely backfired on her.
absolutely true
guys this was jusy a phase in the Bea master plan. She has no intentions of going up and did not come on the show for several weeks to just ride Freddie's coat tail and finish 2nd or third. She has a plan and the hardest part was prob out to get rid of Freddie. Lets see who she targets next and the next phase in the Bea master plan.

MaratSafinForever 14-08-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by survivorfan
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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
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Originally posted by survivorfan
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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I'm not gonna read ANY of that.

How the hell has she outsmarted anybody when she is a public hate figure?
Not too long ago marcus was a hate figure and pervert and tonight his a favourite!

Freddie was the odds on Fav not long ago and not he's out!

When she walked in and refused the task some thought she was this angelic figure with morals...now she is hated....who knows what will happen tomorrow with the public thinking ever changing :shrug:
Listen, Bea is one of the most hated contestants of all time, she has produced MALICE. Marcus has never been like that. He has never constantly bitched and bitched and bitched and been a complete and utter hypocrite like Bea.

Freddie was favourite until SHE came in, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Fred fans out there will fecking hate her.

Online polls mean **** but on top of the fact anybody I've ever heard speak of her hates her, the polls have her down there with Lisa.

She's winning nothing.
Dont get me wrong no way is Bea winning the show....but she will and has already done some damage and while her actions will not make her the winner it will influence the outcome as done tonight.

If there was such malice towards Bea and given Marcus was and still hated by some how come the anti Bea did not help Freddie tonight?

Her game worked!

Maybe she will get an audience with the queen too and her odds will shorten just like Rodrigo :whistle:
She obviously didn't go into the show with the objective to get rid of the favourite. That's pointless. She went in there to act all nicey nicey, she was doing that to begin with and then her true colours began to shine.

What use is going in the house to get rid of a favourite and then be hated? She's not in there for that.

She will get a shock. She thinks she's doing so well.

zukhov 14-08-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by masonbason


You've got it completely wrong. If she was clever she would have continued to be friends with halfwit and ride into the finals.

She has gained nothing right now, in fact she will be out next week if she is nominated hence her initial gameplan completely backfired on her.
The big thing for Bea was when she was nominated. She realised that she would be up every week alongside favourites to win. She also relised that she had gone OTT on David and would not survive a public vote. She took the logical decision to stay in for as long as possible by switching sides.

Unfortunatly for Bea she did this in the most nasty way possible. All the HM except maybe for Charlie can see right through her and a lot of noms are going to be flying her way next week.

Time will tell if Bea really is trying to pick off the faves. If she is her next campaign will be against Charlie. If she kicks off in that direction we know that her gameplan is assasination. We have to see.

survivorfan 14-08-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by zukhov
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Originally posted by masonbason


You've got it completely wrong. If she was clever she would have continued to be friends with halfwit and ride into the finals.

She has gained nothing right now, in fact she will be out next week if she is nominated hence her initial gameplan completely backfired on her.
The big thing for Bea was when she was nominated. She realised that she would be up every week alongside favourites to win. She also relised that she had gone OTT on David and would not survive a public vote. She took the logical decision to stay in for as long as possible by switching sides.

Unfortunatly for Bea she did this in the most nasty way possible. All the HM except maybe for Charlie can see right through her and a lot of noms are going to be flying her way next week.

Time will tell if Bea really is trying to pick off the faves. If she is her next campaign will be against Charlie. If she kicks off in that direction we know that her gameplan is assasination. We have to see.
Good points. Charlie i believe is a small time game player and joined in with Bea to get his fans to help vote out one of his rivals. interesting he was playing nice guy and when nice girl Hira got booted he changed!!

jet 14-08-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
The fact is, that this will only get her so far, she is popular in the house, but that isn't what this show is about as Fred demonstrated perfectly in the first 5 weeks.

She is hated outside, the fact she thinks she is doing well concluded by the fact she is popular in the house could bite her in the arse seeing as she will get one hell of a shock when the doors open on eviction night.
What makes you think Bea is popular in the house? The other HM's just go along with her because they know what she is like if you ever happen to disagree with her. They are just playing along.

ElProximo 14-08-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by survivorfan
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Originally posted by charliegimbert
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Originally posted by masonbason


You've got it completely wrong. If she was clever she would have continued to be friends with halfwit and ride into the finals.

She has gained nothing right now, in fact she will be out next week if she is nominated hence her initial gameplan completely backfired on her.
absolutely true
guys this was jusy a phase in the Bea master plan. She has no intentions of going up and did not come on the show for several weeks to just ride Freddie's coat tail and finish 2nd or third. She has a plan and the hardest part was prob out to get rid of Freddie. Lets see who she targets next and the next phase in the Bea master plan.
Spot on again.
She knows full well what she is doing and its not like this is the end of it.
She is already on hyper-drive of destruction tonight.
Siavash and Sophie might want to brace themselves.

comicbook 15-08-2009 12:00 AM

Bea is not well she has a personalty disorder l think she will have a nervous breakdown when she realise that she is the most hated HM ever she is worst than charlie the big mouth & Craig the stalker. Freddie/Halfwit was to cocky why he was evicted tonight even though Bea was his downfall, if he wasn't so sure he was going to stay he would have stayed.

survivorfan 15-08-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by comicbook
Bea is not well she has a personalty disorder l think she will have a nervous breakdown when she realise that she is the most hated HM ever she is worst than charlie the big mouth & Craig the stalker. Freddie/Halfwit was to cocky why he was evicted tonight even though Bea was his downfall, if he wasn't so sure he was going to stay he would have stayed.
I believe Bea is a Sociopath so yes she has a personality disorder....but Sociopaths lack morals or true emotions and in their mind they bellieve they are right with feeling of entitlement so no way will she be breaking down....

MaratSafinForever 15-08-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
The fact is, that this will only get her so far, she is popular in the house, but that isn't what this show is about as Fred demonstrated perfectly in the first 5 weeks.

She is hated outside, the fact she thinks she is doing well concluded by the fact she is popular in the house could bite her in the arse seeing as she will get one hell of a shock when the doors open on eviction night.
What makes you think Bea is popular in the house? The other HM's just go along with her because they know what she is like if you ever happen to disagree with her. They are just playing along.
Well Lisa, David and Charlie are all for her, which means Sophie won't exactly show any oppose to her.

She wasn't nominated and doubt she will be this week, although I hope she is.

Patricia4 15-08-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I'm not gonna read ANY of that.

How the hell has she outsmarted anybody when she is a public hate figure?
Spot on :thumbs:

survivorfan 15-08-2009 12:10 AM

Lets not forget she had an influence in the Noirin vote witrh her commenting, clashed with Kenny and like Freddie prob brought out the worst in him and he became hated figure and hot favourite to get the boot till he decided he couldnt take any more and walk. Told David Norin didnt fancy him but instead she liked Siavash...a blatant lie...which screwed with his head and he too walked when he prob would have stayed if she told him the truth...so she is bulldozing her way through the house and unbelievable for me to say this but the not so long ago disliked Marcus (so called perv, creep, bully) and the unpopular Lisa might be the only ones strong enough to stop her.

Lisa will prob sit back and ride this to the final while marcus will prob be next to go once she has worked her magic once more on the unsuspecting public with many dont even realise what she is doing. Yes she is hated but she is winning right now anyway with the public voting pattern.
:colour:

shash 15-08-2009 12:18 AM

it depends how far she goes. Yes she wanted to get Freddie out and she succeeded, but she has totally alienated and crossed the most placid of BB fans who now despise her, and with good reason. People do want her humiliated now and she seems almost universally hated. Most big characters usually attract hatred and support in reasonably even measures but Bea's supporters are few and far between. Supporters of all housemates, even those she currently is friends with, surely realise it is only a matter of time before she does to their favourite what she did to Freddie. She is picking them off one by one, but her time will come (it should have been last week :mad: )

Cracks are showing though, according to highlights, I think Lisa has twigged and is trying her best to convey this to the slow to pick this up David. I think he sees too now.

She may have won the battle but her losing the war will be spectacular and disastrous.


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