We will agree to disagree over this one Vicky IMO he had no intention WHATSOEVER of putting himself up ,he dropped a bolok

The way Marcus phrased it sounded like it was meant to mean 'too bad it didn't work'

Well we will just have to agree to differ on this one. Do you really think he WANTS to go home? None of them do they are playing a game and playing it to win.

It is how they go about it that makes people pay attention and either grant their wish OR blow them out of the water.
I've said many times I really like him and I still do compared to Lisa's crew etc etc. If he survives this Friday he will have my full support i just don't think he deserves to beat Marcus on this occasion. He knew what he was doing.

Well hold on. The way I read the situation, Siavash was trying to get a three-way eviction, anticipating it would be him, Marcus and David. Obviously, he knew there was a chance that if he messed up his calculations then it might just be him and Marcus. I think that is what has happened and that is what Marcus is referring to. It fits the available evidence, as far as I can see, if we assume that Siavash is not deceiving everyone.

Edit: I note that at least one other forum member has said a similar thing in response.

Siavash got very upset the night Cairon left BB and he blamed Lisa for it so he waited and waited for the time that there was more of Lisas gang left then other HM's and finally the other night he seen the chance to finaly payback Lisa and that was get her best-friend David up against him and Marcus known he'd go...But it backfired...and the rest as they say ...

If Siavash really belived in no free rides he should have nominated Charlie/Sohie/Rodrigo.

His plan was a 3 way Marcus/Sivash/David eviction that he assumed David would loose. The talk of 'free rides' is simply to make himself look good at the expense of Charlie/Sohie/Rodrigo.

Now he is in a 2 way with Marcus, his scheme truley has backfired.

If only Siavash had nominated he wouldn't be going home on Friday :xyxwave:

Why? because Sievashes scheme did not work?

See we dont see the whole story when Marcus said ''Your scheme didn't work'' He wasn't having a go at Siavash but only he and Siavash knew what the sceme was and that was to get back at Lisa by getting David up....Thats all it was and if anyone else reads anything different into it ...well good on you.

I just think it's lame that Marcus is on the chopping block because Siavash arrogantly and erroneously tried to predict who would be nominated.

Yes there was. Because Siavash schemed and failed. :thumbs:

No, because he was quite bitchy...or came across that way.

So you are able to read Siavash's mind now?

That is all just unfounded speculation on your part

Because he was gunning for a 3-way eviction.

Not really, Siavash had other noms out of his hands. He wanted a 3-way. But he failed. And that's his hard luck. :rolleyes:

Why should schemers succeed? ...

I agree the Cairon theory is farfetched. But he did want a 3-way and expected it.

You are ignoring AhmedFan2004, so you can not see their posts.

But by his calculations David was going to be up anyway. Siavash just tried to join him, rather than letting it be Dave vs Marcus.

So his decisions had nothing to do with getting David up. He already calculated that David would be up, with 3 noms.

If he wanted David up so bad, guaranteed, he'd nominate David. :rolleyes:

I think he was just VERY hurt that Siavash arranged for David not to be up! Marcus thinks he is a lot more vulnerable as a consequence of it. He would probably have gone anyway.

To be honest, I think Marcus would have triumphed handily in a direct eviction vote against David.

Yes well, Siavash was gunning for the £100K. His gameplan of martyr + victim, whilst being safe with David alongside them in a 3-way, failed.

Ohhh well. :rolleyes:

You do realise that Siavashs vote (had he nominated) would of made no difference whatsoever?

That's true. But if Siavash nommed David to make this scenario as likely as possible, he wouldn't look like a hero sacrificing himself. And then a victim for making them all kick off afterwards. :rolleyes:

Mickey claims Siavash did this to get back at Lisa. But logically he'd nominate David if he wanted that. David more likely to be up, and more likely to be 1 vs 1 with Marcus = David gone and Lisa upset.

So it clearly wasn't for getting back at Lisa ... :whistle:

Who's AhmedFan2004?

This is true, and perhaps the funniest part of it all, lol. :thumbs:

I am not involved in any dispute on such matters. I was responding directly to a post I took as implying that Marcus would probably have lost a straight vote against David, nothing more.