[rquote=2518956&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2518936&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518831&tid=145529&author=eggdavid]so this 'el proximo' fellow is pretty accurate in most of what you've seen him post -- despite this being your first day posting on the forum -- you both have the same opinion and you both twist facts -- hmm

give it up proximo, nice job trying to hide like a coward but you're as obvious as ever :sleep:[/rquote]

You lot aren't half as clever as you like to think you are!

I have read quite a lot of El proximo's posts and the style of writing is quite different to the op's! If any of you had any brains - you would realize that!

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meecha are you el proximo too?[/rquote]

ah! another stupid one!:laugh2:

[rquote=2518988&tid=145529&author=nut][rquote=2518943&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]The above comments DO NOT address the thread I started. Typical! :joker:

And I'm not El Poximo, and I am certainly no fan of Lisa. Rather, I am a lurker who has read this forum for a while now, and who has decided to make a critical observation, and one, I might add, that no-one else has the intelligence to debate.[/rquote]Debate is one thing spreading hate is another take a look at his posts there is nothing to debate he is full of hate you can not hold a debate when someone is set in his/her ways and filled with that much hatred, its impossible you would have more chance talking Hitler out of gassing the jews in WW2 than changing El poxi's views other than he detests Marcus much more than he can sit there and love Lisa?:shrug:[/rquote]

Spreading hate? Show me the evidence. Not sure where El Poxismo's ''hate'' is, as I've only read a couple of his posts, but he seems rational from what I have observed.

Plus, ''hating'' a housemate is immature. How can one ''hate'' someone when they have merely a game show to go by?

You need to construct your arguments better, as you are severly misguided in your assertions.

[rquote=2518988&tid=145529&author=nut][rquote=2518943&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]The above comments DO NOT address the thread I started. Typical! :joker:

And I'm not El Poximo, and I am certainly no fan of Lisa. Rather, I am a lurker who has read this forum for a while now, and who has decided to make a critical observation, and one, I might add, that no-one else has the intelligence to debate.[/rquote]Debate is one thing spreading hate is another take a look at his posts there is nothing to debate he is full of hate you can not hold a debate when someone is set in his/her ways and filled with that much hatred, its impossible you would have more chance talking Hitler out of gassing the jews in WW2 than changing El poxi's views other than he detests Marcus much more than he can sit there and love Lisa?:shrug:[/rquote]

He is no more rigid or obsessive in his views than some of the Marcus fans on this forum - who believe a man who can give a few one-liners is a hero come legend! :laugh2: How absurd is that!

[rquote=2519004&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518956&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2518936&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518831&tid=145529&author=eggdavid]so this 'el proximo' fellow is pretty accurate in most of what you've seen him post -- despite this being your first day posting on the forum -- you both have the same opinion and you both twist facts -- hmm

give it up proximo, nice job trying to hide like a coward but you're as obvious as ever :sleep:[/rquote]

You lot aren't half as clever as you like to think you are!

I have read quite a lot of El proximo's posts and the style of writing is quite different to the op's! If any of you had any brains - you would realize that!

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meecha are you el proximo too?[/rquote]

ah! another stupid one!:laugh2:

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Oh my, you actually thought I was serious. Oh dear, oh dear.

[rquote=2519032&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2519004&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518956&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2518936&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518831&tid=145529&author=eggdavid]so this 'el proximo' fellow is pretty accurate in most of what you've seen him post -- despite this being your first day posting on the forum -- you both have the same opinion and you both twist facts -- hmm

give it up proximo, nice job trying to hide like a coward but you're as obvious as ever :sleep:[/rquote]

You lot aren't half as clever as you like to think you are!

I have read quite a lot of El proximo's posts and the style of writing is quite different to the op's! If any of you had any brains - you would realize that!

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meecha are you el proximo too?[/rquote]

ah! another stupid one!:laugh2:

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Oh my, you actually thought I was serious. Oh dear, oh dear.[/rquote]

Oh dear, oh dear ...

[rquote=2519029&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518988&tid=145529&author=nut][rquote=2518943&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]The above comments DO NOT address the thread I started. Typical! :joker:

And I'm not El Poximo, and I am certainly no fan of Lisa. Rather, I am a lurker who has read this forum for a while now, and who has decided to make a critical observation, and one, I might add, that no-one else has the intelligence to debate.[/rquote]Debate is one thing spreading hate is another take a look at his posts there is nothing to debate he is full of hate you can not hold a debate when someone is set in his/her ways and filled with that much hatred, its impossible you would have more chance talking Hitler out of gassing the jews in WW2 than changing El poxi's views other than he detests Marcus much more than he can sit there and love Lisa?:shrug:[/rquote]

He is no more rigid or obsessive in his views than some of the Marcus fans on this forum - who believe a man who can give a few one-liners is a hero come legend! :laugh2: How absurd is that!



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I think that is an excellent point. I've also noticed how the term ''legend'' is thrown around.

Charity workers and rescue teams are more worthy of the term imo.

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For someone who wished that ''Freddy should have won'', it is absurd you have an avatar ridiculing him.

Hehehe.[/rquote]

Im sure if Freddie saw my signature he would see the funny side of it. You need to lighten up.

[rquote=2519053&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2518974&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]
For someone who wished that ''Freddy should have won'', it is absurd you have an avatar ridiculing him.

Hehehe.[/rquote]

Im sure if Freddie saw my signature he would see the funny side of it. You need to lighten up. [/rquote]

Lighten up? lmao. Says the guy who hijak's people's threads and starts spreading accusations.

[rquote=2519016&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts][rquote=2518988&tid=145529&author=nut][rquote=2518943&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]The above comments DO NOT address the thread I started. Typical! :joker:

And I'm not El Poximo, and I am certainly no fan of Lisa. Rather, I am a lurker who has read this forum for a while now, and who has decided to make a critical observation, and one, I might add, that no-one else has the intelligence to debate.[/rquote]Debate is one thing spreading hate is another take a look at his posts there is nothing to debate he is full of hate you can not hold a debate when someone is set in his/her ways and filled with that much hatred, its impossible you would have more chance talking Hitler out of gassing the jews in WW2 than changing El poxi's views other than he detests Marcus much more than he can sit there and love Lisa?:shrug:[/rquote]

Spreading hate? Show me the evidence. My posts are aimed at critical opinion and debate. Not sure where El Poxismo's ''hate'' is, as I've only read a couple of his posts, but he seems rational from what I have observed.

Plus, ''hating'' a housemate is immature. How can one ''hate'' someone when they have merely a game show to go by?
You need to construct your arguments better, as you are severly misguided in your assertions.[/rquote]you need to read more of his posts then:whistle: he is a fool that can not get Marcus out of his head even though hes been out almost a week he still bangs on about marcus more than Marcus's fans do! now thats fu**ing taking hatred to a whole new level:nono:

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Oh my, you actually thought I was serious. Oh dear, oh dear.[/rquote]

Oh dear, oh dear ...[/rquote]

Mimicking me?

Well, I suppose impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery. :blush2:

I see you weren't able to finish your full name "myopinioncounts", allow me the honours "for jack sh1t".

I love the way you big up El Proximo, then deny you are anything to do with her. and then later the sentence constructions in both your posts are remarkably similar.

I also like the way you say you have lurked on the forums for a while reading el poxi's threads then later just like EP you sort of change your "facts" stating you have only read a couple of EP's posts.

How goes your dancing, Hrdlicka?

Clueless my friend, absolutely clueless.

Marcus was the msot genuine HM of the series, the show is shite without him and now not worth watching.

[rquote=2519055&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts][rquote=2519053&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2518974&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]
For someone who wished that ''Freddy should have won'', it is absurd you have an avatar ridiculing him.

Hehehe.[/rquote]

Im sure if Freddie saw my signature he would see the funny side of it. You need to lighten up. [/rquote]

Lighten up? lmao. Says the guy who hijak's people's threads and starts spreading accusations.[/rquote]

By posting a thread it is an invitation for someone to comment, therefore I was not hijacking it. Also I didnt not make any accusation's nor did I even directly address you.

I left a light-hearted comment intented as a joke. You, on the other hand, appear to be looking for conflict.

Listen up guys, this thread is seriously derailing.

Nut, you know El Poximo better than I, but I haven't seen evidence of what you're saying about him, but I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I simply don't know!

No hard feelings, I really wanted to get a good debate out of this thread, as this observation of Marcus was something I was thinking about yesterday, so I made the post today. If you want to comment on my observation, that would be cool.

And BBFan01, let's just drop the drama dude, this thread is seriously derailed lmao.

Can we stay on topic?

Just read some more responses. Sheesh! I'm not here for drama, just debate. Shaswn or whatever your name is, read the OP again, and then give an objective reply, instead of simply going on the OTT defence. Same goes for the rest of you who are having a heart attack over this thread lol.

here is just one thread he dictates his hate about Marcus there are 100s more you will be hard pushed to find a post where he does not mention Marcus or as he likes to think its offencive by calling him "Marcy" http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...340#pid2500095

I find El poxi a sad little boy/girl that brings very little to the forum other than hate to an ex housemate.

[rquote=2519064&tid=145529&author=Shasown]I see you weren't able to finish your full name "myopinioncounts", allow me the honours "for jack sh1t".

I love the way you big up El Proximo, then deny you are anything to do with her. and then later the sentence constructions in both your posts are remarkably similar.

I also like the way you say you have lurked on the forums for a while reading el poxi's threads then later just like EP you sort of change your "facts" stating you have only read a couple of EP's posts.

How goes your dancing, Hrdlicka? [/rquote]

Their sentence construction is not at all similar! Seeing what you want to see again! Go and read some of El Proximo's posts then - and compare! You talk rubbish!

[rquote=2519145&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2519064&tid=145529&author=Shasown]I see you weren't able to finish your full name "myopinioncounts", allow me the honours "for jack sh1t".

I love the way you big up El Proximo, then deny you are anything to do with her. and then later the sentence constructions in both your posts are remarkably similar.

I also like the way you say you have lurked on the forums for a while reading el poxi's threads then later just like EP you sort of change your "facts" stating you have only read a couple of EP's posts.

How goes your dancing, Hrdlicka? [/rquote]

Their sentence construction is not at all similar! Seeing what you want to see again! Go and read some of El Proximo's posts then - and compare! You talk rubbish!



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Thanks for the support.

I agree with the OP on this one, although I'm a Marcus fan.

[rquote=2519154&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts][rquote=2519145&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2519064&tid=145529&author=Shasown]I see you weren't able to finish your full name "myopinioncounts", allow me the honours "for jack sh1t".

I love the way you big up El Proximo, then deny you are anything to do with her. and then later the sentence constructions in both your posts are remarkably similar.

I also like the way you say you have lurked on the forums for a while reading el poxi's threads then later just like EP you sort of change your "facts" stating you have only read a couple of EP's posts.

How goes your dancing, Hrdlicka? [/rquote]

Their sentence construction is not at all similar! Seeing what you want to see again! Go and read some of El Proximo's posts then - and compare! You talk rubbish!



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Thanks for the support. [/rquote]

Your'e welcome - I know what some of the Marcus fans are like! They talk about hatred - but they get very hateful if someone dares to criticize the 'legend'! :laugh2:

[rquote=2519195&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01]I agree with the OP on this one, although I'm a Marcus fan.[/rquote]

Thanks for your opinion on this thread, it is one of the very few responses ON TOPIC lol.

And I think we started off on the wrong foot, nice to meet you :)

[rquote=2518807&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts]The following is just my opinion, but here goes anyway.

Okay, so Marcus played the "rebel" whilst in the house, but 2 things just don't add up:

1) At the VERY beginning, Marcus was a stickler for the rules/tasks, and even got angry at Sree for not being serious during them. Suddenly, about 2-3 weeks into the show, he changed! But people couldn't see this, because most people aren't skilled enough to see these things.

The exception is a user here called El Proximo or something, who is pretty accurate in most of what I have seen him post on here.

2) When Marcus came out, he bent over backwards to ingratiate himself with the public, first by trying to shake their hands (a tactic Lisa used on BBBM, to sway the audience, which is why she was given an easy ride by them), and second by arse-licking everyone on DS by calling THEM ''legends''. Even the people who didn't like him, he even said he really respected them or some BS, which is TOTALLY out of the persona he created in the house.

Here's some cringeworthy threads: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=#post35175330

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=#post35176100

I'm afraid, the ONLY real rebel in BB was Victor. Oh, and Science. But aside from that, real rebels are few and far between on BB.

Marcus, in my opinion, is not as genuine as he makes out to be, and is certainly no rebel in it's truest form.

So, do you agree or disagree with this observation?[/rquote]



'Lighten up? lmao. Says the guy who hijak's people's threads and starts spreading accusations.[/rquote]'
Hi there. OK, you want some proper analysis - I'll give you some:

Firstly, regarding your post. I take a few points on board and have thought about them.

1. Just because Marcus 'changed' after a couple of weeks means nothing. He rebelled most of the time and said most of it wasn't serious (you either get him or you don't) - often had irony written all over him. In fact him and Victor were indeed very similar; Victor often had tongue in cheek moments, and would ingratiate himself with BB in the DR and make little jokes and play the game. He WASN'T all rebel at all and that was the point - he was playing a bit of a game, while still being himself - just like Marcus.

2. All HMs ingratiate themselves with the public, interviews etc. on eviction. Nobody wants to be disliked (human nature) - apart from McCririck (lol). Your argument there is null and void.

Now onto Proxy and in response to another of your posts (below)...





Er, excuse me but El Proxy has 'hijacked' a number of 'my' threads (although nobody 'owns' a thread). The hatred and bile spewed from her says so much about this unique, lonesome forum member. Proxy has made a number of accusations (personal and detailed) about Freddie. They haven't been forgotten. This is not because I am such a die-hard fan that I cannot see Freddie has his faults and was silly at times, but Proxy has overstepped the mark on a number of occassions regarding both Freddie and Marcus. Indeed a number of slanderous comments have been made. It is because they have so many fans that this lonesome Lisa fan has had to over-do in order to try and redress the balance.

It is because you singled out Proxy in your post that you received such a negative response. Either you are a genuine lurker with genuine points; or you are Proxy's brother.

Have a good night. :wink:

[rquote=2519201&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2519154&tid=145529&author=myopinioncounts][rquote=2519145&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2519064&tid=145529&author=Shasown]I see you weren't able to finish your full name "myopinioncounts", allow me the honours "for jack sh1t".

I love the way you big up El Proximo, then deny you are anything to do with her. and then later the sentence constructions in both your posts are remarkably similar.

I also like the way you say you have lurked on the forums for a while reading el poxi's threads then later just like EP you sort of change your "facts" stating you have only read a couple of EP's posts.

How goes your dancing, Hrdlicka? [/rquote]

Their sentence construction is not at all similar! Seeing what you want to see again! Go and read some of El Proximo's posts then - and compare! You talk rubbish!



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Thanks for the support. [/rquote]

Your'e welcome - I know what some of the Marcus fans are like! They talk about hatred - but they get very hateful if someone dares to criticize the 'legend'! :laugh2:

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Yeah lol I know what you mean!

I seriously can't understand how anyone can ''hate'' a BB contestant, as it's just a show.

But as far as critical debate/observations go, well, that's another story, hence this thread. What are your opinions btw? Do you see this ''rebel'' persona somewhat false? That's the impression I have been left with having watched the show since luanch day.

[rquote=2519209&tid=145529&author=eggdavid][rquote=2519145&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2519064&tid=145529&author=Shasown]I see you weren't able to finish your full name "myopinioncounts", allow me the honours "for jack sh1t".

I love the way you big up El Proximo, then deny you are anything to do with her. and then later the sentence constructions in both your posts are remarkably similar.

I also like the way you say you have lurked on the forums for a while reading el poxi's threads then later just like EP you sort of change your "facts" stating you have only read a couple of EP's posts.

How goes your dancing, Hrdlicka? [/rquote]

Their sentence construction is not at all similar! Seeing what you want to see again! Go and read some of El Proximo's posts then - and compare! You talk rubbish![/rquote]
Hi, "VOICEOFREASON". :wavey:

Taking a leaf out of Proximo's book and hiding under a false account, I see. I suggest growing a pair and using your original account now that you've been rumbled.[/rquote]

Hi:wavey:

I would love my old account back - but keep having problems with signing in! Have asked admin why it keeps happening - but there appears to be no explanation!

So - have to re-register! Would you like to campaign to get me my old name back? I have nothing to hide! Go and complain to admin - you will soon find out that, once again, you have got it wrong!

:laugh2:

[rquote=2518956&tid=145529&author=BigBrotherFan01][rquote=2518936&tid=145529&author=meecha][rquote=2518831&tid=145529&author=eggdavid]so this 'el proximo' fellow is pretty accurate in most of what you've seen him post -- despite this being your first day posting on the forum -- you both have the same opinion and you both twist facts -- hmm

give it up proximo, nice job trying to hide like a coward but you're as obvious as ever :sleep:[/rquote]

You lot aren't half as clever as you like to think you are!

I have read quite a lot of El proximo's posts and the style of writing is quite different to the op's! If any of you had any brains - you would realize that!

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meecha are you el proximo too?[/rquote]


could very well be, both these ladies strongly exhibit menopausal(sp) crazed hysterics in their posts which, no doubt, accounts for the confused slaverings said posts invariably consist off. However, Meecha seems to have more control and a certain stronger grasp on reality but does rant on and on in a very 'needy' kind of way. The Pox is plain looped. Some of the claims/arguments made/posited by the later lady are so WAY out there and so misinformed! I mean they dont even belong in this solar system.

I'm hungry...tea time.