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Then you Sir are a perfect example of why most of the HM's don't want to come on the forums. :rolleyes:[/rquote] Why? I'd rather be honest. Everything I've said, I would post in a thread where he comes online. Or message him personally. He's the only HM in BB history I genuinely dislike and would contact to explain so. Even if Bea came online, I probably would just ask intriguing Q's. Btw, you lied/was wrong regarding Sree in the other thread. He never went crying to anyone regarding Marcus. BB called Marcus into the DR. Do not turn into a Siavash. Siavash's fans don't need to lie like he does. Just like him for his clothes or *insert banal reasoning for fanship*. |
[rquote=2551452&tid=147049&author=AhmedFan2004][rquote=2551422&tid=147049&author=MissKittyFantasti co]
Then you Sir are a perfect example of why most of the HM's don't want to come on the forums. :rolleyes:[/rquote] Why? I'd rather be honest. Everything I've said, I would post in a thread where he comes online. Or message him personally. He's the only HM in BB history I genuinely dislike and would contact to explain so. Even if Bea came online, I probably would just ask intriguing Q's. Btw, you lied/was wrong regarding Sree in the other thread. He never went crying to anyone regarding Marcus. BB called Marcus into the DR. Do not turn into a Siavash. Siavash's fans don't need to lie like he does. Just like him for his clothes or *insert banal reasoning for fanship*.[/rquote] He bloody well did and you know it AhmedFan, he asked BB to speak to Marcus, so basically he went crying to them because he got owned during his own argument, then tried to make it into something it wasn't. One thing I am not is a liar and who are you to call anyone that anyway? FM or HM for that matter. |
Ahmed Fan, I understand you don't like him and he's Iranian but I don't see what telling him your Iranian mother doesn't like him will do?
Anyway, I think Siavash would be better off not going on any forum. |
[rquote=2551471&tid=147049&author=LethalDealer]Ahmed Fan, I understand you don't like him and he's Iranian but I don't see what telling him your Iranian mother doesn't like him will do?
Anyway, I think Siavash would be better off not going on any forum. [/rquote] I think he would be better off, he might get some sense knocked into that delusional, confused head of is. Lisa is someone who shouldn't go on a forum; just seeing immature, ignorant vitriol about her class, wealth or appearance. Now that would be pointless reading and totally pointless. As I said, Siavash is lucky the kids kept dialling, and the adults switched off a long time ago. I haven't seen evidence of adults finding Siavash appealing as a HM. And aren't voters supposed to be over 18 when they call? |
Since the other thread was locked...
AhmedFan2004 , why would Siavash care about what you and your mom have to say about him? If anything it makes you look lamer than you already are. Writing essays to someone you seen on TV. SMH. |
You didn't really answer my question though. Lisa would get some harsh comments which is wrong but you mention appearence, People have slagged Siavash's appearance, that's hardly ok is it?
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Ye like I'm Irish and if some chap goes my mam is Irish and she didn't like you, I don't see the point in that
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[rquote=2551559&tid=147049&author=BBUK4LYFE]Since the other thread was locked...
AhmedFan2004 , why would Siavash care about what you and your mom have to say about him? If anything it makes you look lamer than you already are. Writing essays to someone you seen on TV. SMH. [/rquote] I don't care whether he cares or not, I'd just like to tell him anyway. I'm not looking for a reaction from him or anyone. He's not a Hollywood star, I won't be giving him preferential treatment, unlike others. And essays was meant in jest ... :joker: |
[rquote=2551599&tid=147049&author=AhmedFan2004][rquote=2551559&tid=147049&author=BBUK4LYFE]Since the other thread was locked...
AhmedFan2004 , why would Siavash care about what you and your mom have to say about him? If anything it makes you look lamer than you already are. Writing essays to someone you seen on TV. SMH. [/rquote] I don't care whether he cares or not, I'd just like to tell him anyway. I'm not looking for a reaction from him or anyone. He's not a Hollywood star, I won't be giving him preferential treatment, unlike others. And essays was meant in jest ... :joker:[/rquote] It's not so much about Ahemdfan caring about Siavash but Ahmedfan has to write what his mummy tells him otherwise she will take his computer priviledges off him and ground him. And a'fan was the one who tried slagging off marcus for looking after his mother. PMSL. |
[rquote=2551209&tid=147049&author=BBUK4LYFE]Just chill.
He might join here also, just like Marcus did. [/rquote] Did Marcus join here too?? Was he on?? |
We should all twitter Siavash to join here.
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I don't like Siavash one bit for reasons fully covered by others......However if Siavash were to come on here and admit his behavour was a game plan........Then I would respect his right to play a game in a game show even if it is a sly one......
But if all he does is make excuse after excuse then I would not have any respect for him at all.......... The games over there is no need for him to deny his action......That's why both Davina and George Lamb have lost patience with him during the interviews....... I also feel the man uses clothes instead of a personality...... |
[rquote=2551433&tid=147049&author=AhmedFan2004][rquote=2551221&tid=147049&author=BBUK4LYFE]I say if anyone attacks any of the housemates that post on here, they get an instant ban, no questions asked. [/rquote]
They're not special, they should be treated like any other member [/rquote] In which case, people who start spouting venom at them SHOULD be banned. Since its against the rules to attack other FMs and make personal insults :wink: |
Siavash haters are the exact embodiment of what I hate about certain Big Brother fans. The guy makes a mistake on national television by cheating on his girlfriend, gets tipsy and spins one or two small lies, likes to wear strange clothes, and decided he was not going to nominate [hardly a genius gameplan as it risked himself being up, simply pandering to the housemates would have been better] all of which we have seen on an edited, one hour a night broadcast
and YET all these thick, holier than thou armchair psychologists across the internet are using it as a chance to take a dump on the poor guy, who NONE of us actualy no in person. chill out, this whole hating housemates thing is pathetic, it makes me ashamed to be a BB fan. i dunno about you but after finale night, and after the panto of it all, i like the entire lot of em |
[rquote=2552209&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Siavash haters are the exact embodiment of what I hate about certain Big Brother fans. The guy makes a mistake on national television by cheating on his girlfriend, gets tipsy and spins one or two small lies, likes to wear strange clothes, and decided he was not going to nominate [hardly a genius gameplan as it risked himself being up, simply pandering to the housemates would have been better] all of which we have seen on an edited, one hour a night broadcast
and YET all these thick, holier than thou armchair psychologists across the internet are using it as a chance to take a dump on the poor guy, who NONE of us actualy no in person. chill out, this whole hating housemates thing is pathetic, it makes me ashamed to be a BB fan. i dunno about you but after finale night, and after the panto of it all, i like the entire lot of em[/rquote] But that's the epitomy of what he did because he did it at the expense of others and betrayed numerous people in the process - alongside this it is the countless lies and deception not only to every housemate in the house but to the general public, like we're idiots. Do you think the presenters questioned him over and over about things for the sake of it? They wanted the truth but he lied over and over again. It's this completely despicable lack of consideration and compassion he has for other people that we dislike. It's an odious, offensive trait in a human being. In the past we've had housemates like Sezer, Grace, Craig, Nadia, Maxwell, Charley Uchea etc who were really nasty pieces of work but they had friends, they were loyal to people in the house. They didn't stab people in the back. This pathetic excuse for a living organism stabbed everyone in the back and did so even after he left the house - he didn't stop. This is the worst thing. Even Grace showed remorse after leaving the house, even she said "fairplay, I was wrong, I shouldn't have done it" and apologised but Siavash continues to lie to use and thinks we're all fools and idiots. Now further to this, and don't take this the wrong way, we come here and on other forums and state this case and we're given this laughable, ridiculous, idiotic (sorry but it is) reductionist argument in his favour. He could **** in someone's dinner and we'd hear "oh, I still think he's a genuine nice kind hearted guy" but his fans appear to think all this betrayal deception and stabbing in the back followed by endless repeated infinite half hearted apologies, like he did nothing wrong is ok and he's kind. Further to this I feel insulted that we see somebody who hasn't been given the basic approaches to being a man. Shaving, hygiene, dressing properly (I mean he wore a suit that was about 4 sizes too small on BBLB? For all his style, doesn't he know where Saville Row is?) which we learn from friends and male role models and we are told oddly and surprisingly that this person, who behaves like this, somewhat obsessively and slightly scarily as well - doesn't have some image problems, some self esteem problems, confidence problems - all this front is to mask personal internal difficulties which highlights his mistreatment of others. We're not blind. We're not stupid. Yes on BB we will criticise and out housemates but this housemate, Siavash, is the epitomy of what we dislike in people and it is, considering his image to mask somebody who is dull and boring and has the vocabulary of a gangsta rap CD. So seriously, if there was a debate and a discussion let's base it on facts and the obvious. Let's base it on intelligence and life experience and the knowledge we have on the show because I have not seen anybody else on the show stab people in the back and treat people with such disdain for 13 weeks like he has and now after the show so the comparison doesn't wash. He is the worst housemate in big brother and he doesn't gain any sympathy for his ill mannered self indulgence from me. |
Good god almighty. He told a few bad lies, nothing more. He has plenty of friends. He is good friends with Sophie, Freddie & Cairon, and is getting back on with Marcus, so for that point you are sproting complete and utter rubbish. Have you any unresolved mental issues? Because you seem to think you know the dude inside out. What about all the times even SOPHIE lied? The times she stole cans that would have got other housemates in serious trouble? And then tried to reverse the blame on others or worse, those who owned the cans? What about the countless times she was caught calling Marcus names despite being 'friends' with him? Same with Halfwit in the early weeks?
Of course she actualy did do all these things but at the end of the day, it was all just a show, and most normal, healthy, happy people forget it, move on, and assume she is a good person, just like all the Siavash voters did. And boy was their a lot of them. How can I take you seriously when your best arguments center around what Siavash wore on BBLB? Get a grip. And possibly, a life. And you have the balls to say my argument is bad? You took the simple lies he told, the lies everyone told every now and then in the house, and lampooned them into a gigantic Daily Mail style expose. But beneath it all theres no substance. No heart. Just a bored, sorry individual behind their keyboard ready and willing to pas judgement and someone they have never spent time with. And that my friend is worse than anything siavash could ever hope to do. |
[rquote=2552233&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Good god almighty. He told a few bad lies, nothing more. He has plenty of friends. He is good friends with Sophie, Freddie & Cairon, and is getting back on with Marcus, so for that point you are sproting complete and utter rubbish. Have you any unresolved mental issues? Because you seem to think you know the dude inside out. What about all the times even SOPHIE lied? The times she stole cans that would have got other housemates in serious trouble? And then tried to reverse the blame on others or worse, those who owned the cans? What about the countless times she was caught calling Marcus names despite being 'friends' with him? Same with Halfwit in the early weeks?
Of course she actualy did do all these things but at the end of the day, it was all just a show, and most normal, healthy, happy people forget it, move on, and assume she is a good person, just like all the Siavash voters did. And boy was their a lot of them. How can I take you seriously when your best arguments center around what Siavash wore on BBLB? Get a grip. And possibly, a life. How can I take you seriously when your best arguments center around what Siavash wore on BBLB? Get a grip. And possibly, a life. And you have the balls to say my argument is bad? You took the simple lies he told, the lies everyone told every now and then in the house, and lampooned them into a gigantic Daily Mail style expose. But beneath it all theres no substance. No heart. Just a bored, sorry individual behind their keyboard ready and willing to pas judgement and someone they have never spent time with. And that my friend is worse than anything siavash could ever hope to do. [/rquote] More reductionism? I can't believe you state Sophie's alcohol stories (which others knew about) against the endless Siavash behaviour throughout the series. Don't worry, you're not the first to ignore what people say about Siavash. We've seen the excessive bias towards him for weeks on end. There were not a lot of Siavash voters. You should take a look at the final votes and notice how close it was between 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th. I am sure the boos that Siavash got should have doen it for you but I doubt you heard those. Normal happy people move on? Seems like you take great offence at people outing Siavash and your only arguments aren't even close to the behaviour he has. So, basically, come back to me when you have something that is related to Siavash but I doubt you will see that because oddly you're blind to it. LOL, you're so deluded. Everyone told those lies to each other in the house? What planet are you on? Now you're making stuff up. Quite apt considering you mention the Daily Mail in your post. PMSL. Seriously... you must be Siavash because you're lying just like he did. Don't call me friend. That's the kind of pomposity and deception Siavash showed. You also contradict yourself and are hypocritical in the last paragraph because your attacks on the other housemates and Sophie just out you as somebody who is utterly biassed and one sided. |
[rquote=2552227&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552209&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Siavash haters are the exact embodiment of what I hate about certain Big Brother fans. The guy makes a mistake on national television by cheating on his girlfriend, gets tipsy and spins one or two small lies, likes to wear strange clothes, and decided he was not going to nominate [hardly a genius gameplan as it risked himself being up, simply pandering to the housemates would have been better] all of which we have seen on an edited, one hour a night broadcast
and YET all these thick, holier than thou armchair psychologists across the internet are using it as a chance to take a dump on the poor guy, who NONE of us actualy no in person. chill out, this whole hating housemates thing is pathetic, it makes me ashamed to be a BB fan. i dunno about you but after finale night, and after the panto of it all, i like the entire lot of em[/rquote] But that's the epitomy of what he did because he did it at the expense of others and betrayed numerous people in the process - alongside this it is the countless lies and deception not only to every housemate in the house but to the general public, like we're idiots. Do you think the presenters questioned him over and over about things for the sake of it? They wanted the truth but he lied over and over again. It's this completely despicable lack of consideration and compassion he has for other people that we dislike. It's an odious, offensive trait in a human being. In the past we've had housemates like Sezer, Grace, Craig, Nadia, Maxwell, Charley Uchea etc who were really nasty pieces of work but they had friends, they were loyal to people in the house. They didn't stab people in the back. This pathetic excuse for a living organism stabbed everyone in the back and did so even after he left the house - he didn't stop. This is the worst thing. Even Grace showed remorse after leaving the house, even she said "fairplay, I was wrong, I shouldn't have done it" and apologised but Siavash continues to lie to use and thinks we're all fools and idiots. Now further to this, and don't take this the wrong way, we come here and on other forums and state this case and we're given this laughable, ridiculous, idiotic (sorry but it is) reductionist argument in his favour. He could s*** in someone's dinner and we'd hear "oh, I still think he's a genuine nice kind hearted guy" but his fans appear to think all this betrayal deception and stabbing in the back followed by endless repeated infinite half hearted apologies, like he did nothing wrong is ok and he's kind. Further to this I feel insulted that we see somebody who hasn't been given the basic approaches to being a man. Shaving, hygiene, dressing properly (I mean he wore a suit that was about 4 sizes too small on BBLB? For all his style, doesn't he know where Saville Row is?) which we learn from friends and male role models and we are told oddly and surprisingly that this person, who behaves like this, somewhat obsessively and slightly scarily as well - doesn't have some image problems, some self esteem problems, confidence problems - all this front is to mask personal internal difficulties which highlights his mistreatment of others. We're not blind. We're not stupid. Yes on BB we will criticise and out housemates but this housemate, Siavash, is the epitomy of what we dislike in people and it is, considering his image to mask somebody who is dull and boring and has the vocabulary of a gangsta rap CD. So seriously, if there was a debate and a discussion let's base it on facts and the obvious. Let's base it on intelligence and life experience and the knowledge we have on the show because I have not seen anybody else on the show stab people in the back and treat people with such disdain for 13 weeks like he has and now after the show so the comparison doesn't wash. He is the worst housemate in big brother and he doesn't gain any sympathy for his ill mannered self indulgence from me.[/rquote] You seem to watching a different show to the rest of us mate! :laugh2: Either that or your skills of perception are disfunctional! |
[rquote=2552246&tid=147049&author=meecha][rquote=2552227&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552209&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Siavash haters are the exact embodiment of what I hate about certain Big Brother fans. The guy makes a mistake on national television by cheating on his girlfriend, gets tipsy and spins one or two small lies, likes to wear strange clothes, and decided he was not going to nominate [hardly a genius gameplan as it risked himself being up, simply pandering to the housemates would have been better] all of which we have seen on an edited, one hour a night broadcast
and YET all these thick, holier than thou armchair psychologists across the internet are using it as a chance to take a dump on the poor guy, who NONE of us actualy no in person. chill out, this whole hating housemates thing is pathetic, it makes me ashamed to be a BB fan. i dunno about you but after finale night, and after the panto of it all, i like the entire lot of em[/rquote] But that's the epitomy of what he did because he did it at the expense of others and betrayed numerous people in the process - alongside this it is the countless lies and deception not only to every housemate in the house but to the general public, like we're idiots. Do you think the presenters questioned him over and over about things for the sake of it? They wanted the truth but he lied over and over again. It's this completely despicable lack of consideration and compassion he has for other people that we dislike. It's an odious, offensive trait in a human being. In the past we've had housemates like Sezer, Grace, Craig, Nadia, Maxwell, Charley Uchea etc who were really nasty pieces of work but they had friends, they were loyal to people in the house. They didn't stab people in the back. This pathetic excuse for a living organism stabbed everyone in the back and did so even after he left the house - he didn't stop. This is the worst thing. Even Grace showed remorse after leaving the house, even she said "fairplay, I was wrong, I shouldn't have done it" and apologised but Siavash continues to lie to use and thinks we're all fools and idiots. Now further to this, and don't take this the wrong way, we come here and on other forums and state this case and we're given this laughable, ridiculous, idiotic (sorry but it is) reductionist argument in his favour. He could s*** in someone's dinner and we'd hear "oh, I still think he's a genuine nice kind hearted guy" but his fans appear to think all this betrayal deception and stabbing in the back followed by endless repeated infinite half hearted apologies, like he did nothing wrong is ok and he's kind. Further to this I feel insulted that we see somebody who hasn't been given the basic approaches to being a man. Shaving, hygiene, dressing properly (I mean he wore a suit that was about 4 sizes too small on BBLB? For all his style, doesn't he know where Saville Row is?) which we learn from friends and male role models and we are told oddly and surprisingly that this person, who behaves like this, somewhat obsessively and slightly scarily as well - doesn't have some image problems, some self esteem problems, confidence problems - all this front is to mask personal internal difficulties which highlights his mistreatment of others. We're not blind. We're not stupid. Yes on BB we will criticise and out housemates but this housemate, Siavash, is the epitomy of what we dislike in people and it is, considering his image to mask somebody who is dull and boring and has the vocabulary of a gangsta rap CD. So seriously, if there was a debate and a discussion let's base it on facts and the obvious. Let's base it on intelligence and life experience and the knowledge we have on the show because I have not seen anybody else on the show stab people in the back and treat people with such disdain for 13 weeks like he has and now after the show so the comparison doesn't wash. He is the worst housemate in big brother and he doesn't gain any sympathy for his ill mannered self indulgence from me.[/rquote] You seem to watching a different show to the rest of us mate! :laugh2: Either that or your skills of perception are disfunctional! [/rquote] No I think you're just a Siavash fan. It's that simple. And you like to use smileys - a bit like Siavash using clothes to hide his lack of personality, character and virtue. So I see why you support him. |
I see Digital Spy Siavash fans failed on DS to support Siavash and are coming here to support him...
and they have the nerve to say we're obsessional. This deserves a smiley :joker: |
Likewise, you hypocrit. Apart from the cheating, the refusal to nominate, and bunnygate, which we all know of, the only examples you have given have been his hygiene and what he wears.
Bunnygate was a dumb thing to do. A very dumb thing. But we all got over it. Stealing somebodies cans and trying to pass the blame is just as bad. Sitting at the bus stop with your clique mocking halfwit and then refusing to talk to him is just as bad. The cheating he was clearly, CLEARLY genuinly sorry for. If you cant see that you need a scan of some sort. The refusal to nominate is, at best, trivial. Other housemates ended up copying him when it suited them anyway. By refusing to nominate, Siavash was actualy risking far more than he was gaining. He could have been kicked out at any time and he knows it. Seems to me you take great offence at people liking Siavash. It's called opinion. Some of us are not ready to be judgemental morons towards people we dont know. Welcome to planet earth. I am going to continue to assume that at heart all the housemates are good people, and am thankfull for the entertainment they have given us. |
[rquote=2552255&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Likewise, you hypocrit. Apart from the cheating, the refusal to nominate, and bunnygate, which we all know of, the only examples you have given have been his hygiene and what he wears.
Bunnygate was a dumb thing to do. A very dumb thing. But we all got over it. Stealing somebodies cans and trying to pass the blame is just as bad. Sitting at the bus stop with your clique mocking halfwit and then refusing to talk to him is just as bad. The cheating he was clearly, CLEARLY genuinly sorry for. If you cant see that you need a scan of some sort. The refusal to nominate is, at best, trivial. Other housemates ended up copying him when it suited them anyway. By refusing to nominate, Siavash was actualy risking far more than he was gaining. He could have been kicked out at any time and he knows it. Seems to me you take great offence at people liking Siavash. It's called opinion. Some of us are not ready to be judgemental morons towards people we dont know. Welcome to planet earth. I am going to continue to assume that at heart all the housemates are good people, and am thankfull for the entertainment they have given us. [/rquote] I enjoy how you reduce everything that is given in argument for the sake of comfort. In argument, you are supposed to address all points as they are addressed - not give the impression that something isn't as bad as it was said. But anyway - that's what bias is, isn't it. If you feel this bad about it, call OfCom and tell them people don't like Siavash because Channel 4 showed how despicable a living organism he is. I mean, I'll do you a favour, because I'm like that. You mention Siavash did all this - why didn't the housemate do ALL (all being operative) ALL these things Siavash did for 13 weeks and behaved like this. Now... then you will realise the difference between liking and disliking a housemate based upon a comparative analysis. Try it. It's called objectivity. |
ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es. If we were to make one hour highlight shows of US in our everyday lives, never mind a high pressure environment with a group of strangers, I am sure we would be caught telling one or two lies. The fact that this dude is basing his arguments around Siavash's hygiene speaks lowely of him.
Mind you im sure it makes him feel special and intelligent to knock someone so bad he has never met in person. A higher class of BB viewer. But in reality, your just an incredibly judgemental character. Dont be surprised if people distance themselves from you in your lifetime. |
[rquote=2552265&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]ALL the housemates told white lies and some of them performed ACTIONS just as bad as Siavash'es. [/rquote]
No they didn't. |
[rquote=2552262&tid=147049&author=MassiveTruck][rquote=2552255&tid=147049&author=ProbeEight]Likewise, you hypocrit. Apart from the cheating, the refusal to nominate, and bunnygate, which we all know of, the only examples you have given have been his hygiene and what he wears.
Bunnygate was a dumb thing to do. A very dumb thing. But we all got over it. Stealing somebodies cans and trying to pass the blame is just as bad. Sitting at the bus stop with your clique mocking halfwit and then refusing to talk to him is just as bad. The cheating he was clearly, CLEARLY genuinly sorry for. If you cant see that you need a scan of some sort. The refusal to nominate is, at best, trivial. Other housemates ended up copying him when it suited them anyway. By refusing to nominate, Siavash was actualy risking far more than he was gaining. He could have been kicked out at any time and he knows it. Seems to me you take great offence at people liking Siavash. It's called opinion. Some of us are not ready to be judgemental morons towards people we dont know. Welcome to planet earth. I am going to continue to assume that at heart all the housemates are good people, and am thankfull for the entertainment they have given us. [/rquote] I enjoy how you reduce everything that is given in argument for the sake of comfort. In argument, you are supposed to address all points as they are addressed - not give the impression that something isn't as bad as it was said. But anyway - that's what bias is, isn't it. If you feel this bad about it, call OfCom and tell them people don't like Siavash because Channel 4 showed how despicable a living organism he is. I mean, I'll do you a favour, because I'm like that. You mention Siavash did all this - why didn't the housemate do ALL (all being operative) ALL these things Siavash did for 13 weeks and behaved like this. Now... then you will realise the difference between liking and disliking a housemate based upon a comparative analysis. Try it. It's called objectivity.[/rquote] Phrases like 'I enjoy' and 'Im like that' really root out what a rotten bastard you are. The funny thing is, you genuinly seem to think you are of a higher brain capacity than Siavash fans. You also dodged many of my arguments. Like how your passing harsh judgements on someone you have never met, which makes you as bad as Siavash apparently is. I listed the main lies/arguments, and gave my defence, and gave examples of where other housemates acted just as badly. And what do you do? You ignore everything. Everything. And then twist it by claiming IM the one ignoring things. Get a grip. Nobody knows Siavash. He entertained me [true] he ****ed up [true] and they all ****ed up from time to time [true]. Now as I am a good person, I am going to assume as I have had no contact with him that he is also a good person. Try it. It's called reality. It's called having a ****ing heart. |
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