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Vicky. 21-10-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 2622174)
I love this theory

The Matrix was what put it in my head (then The Truman Show)

Yes, the matrix ******** my head up big style. And to be honest, it could be real :shocked:

Not quite in the sense that we can travel to earth and do all sorts of mad backflip and that, but the idea behind it could well be. And if it isnt, then it may be some day, with all this AI shite that is going on.

Stu 21-10-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2622158)
or maybe this is the Matrix! Could be though

Not the exact Matrix, but the trilogy is fantastic and raises all those sort of questions, yes.

One thing that IS fake however, and most people don't realise this, is your ego. It's just been built up over time and can be altered or removed at will. This is also where 'bad trips' come from, i.e. people who freak out on psychedelics because they come to the sudden realisation of just how subjective and temporary there current lifestyle is. Ego death was long sought after in ancient times because by removing everything you know and all your distractions you could dig right down into your inner subconscious.

Stu 21-10-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 2622163)
I belive Im the only important person in this world,

I belive when I die your all ****ed,

I belive this is my TV Show and your`ll all Co Stars/Extras

I believe you are a tool.

InOne 21-10-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2622180)
I never said it was a direct quote dufass.... no need to be like that. I studied Descartes at college and it was his doubt that gave birth to the famous quote.

Sorry, you just seem to be getting more short with me these days.

Patrick 21-10-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2622176)
You all don't exist, you just think you do. ;)

There for, theres no god? No After life?
Which means, theres no world..

Which means were all screwed when we die!

Unless there is a world, but not this world!

Another world and some Legend on that world is dreaming of all us,

Which means.... Oh yeah were still all screwed when this guy wakes up from his dream

Ninastar 21-10-2009 07:24 PM

I always thing there is something on earth that can change somethine for ever, but no one has figured it out yet, and its possible no one ever will. And i always think about how it would take us 1,000,000 years to travel to another galaxy/world but I wonder if they are like 1,000,000 years ahead of us? If that makes sence

Scarlett. 21-10-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2622186)
Yes, the matrix ******** my head up big style. And to be honest, it could be real :shocked:

Not quite in the sense that we can travel to earth and do all sorts of mad backflip and that, but the idea behind it could well be. And if it isnt, then it may be some day, with all this AI shite that is going on.

Indeed, the sequels ruined it for me to an extent (still loved them though) its a very valid theory IMO

InOne 21-10-2009 07:24 PM

Well you have not proved you exist yet, just given me a load of useless quotes and opinions!!!!

Stu 21-10-2009 07:24 PM

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You all don't exist, you just think you do.
Then who is thinking it?

Scarlett. 21-10-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ProbeEight (Post 2622199)
Then who is thinking it?

Well thats easy...US :hugesmile: everyone would be one person

InOne 21-10-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ProbeEight (Post 2622199)
Then who is thinking it?

Who knows? You don't.

Niamh. 21-10-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ProbeEight (Post 2622187)
Not the exact Matrix, but the trilogy is fantastic and raises all those sort of questions, yes.

One thing that IS fake however, and most people don't realise this, is your ego. It's just been built up over time and can be altered or removed at will. This is also where 'bad trips' come from, i.e. people who freak out on psychedelics because they come to the sudden realisation of just how subjective and temporary there current lifestyle is. Ego death was long sought after in ancient times because by removing everything you know and all your distractions you could dig right down into your inner subconscious.

I definately think there is a hell of alot more to our minds than we know about or how to use. Not sure about exact percentages but there's quite a large percentage of brains that we don't use, it has to be there for something, but what?

Jessica. 21-10-2009 07:26 PM

I used to think I was a computer game sometimes :crazy:

InOne 21-10-2009 07:29 PM

Woooooohoooooooooooo

Vicky. 21-10-2009 07:29 PM

I seriously do believe we will be at war with robots in like a million years or something, that is given that we arent all wiped out by the 'aliens' that are searching the universe for us,m the same as we are doing for them.

I mean seriously, people are obsessed with the idea of aliens, but there is bound to be something else out there, that is likely to be as obsessed with finding us, as we are with finding them, which will happen first?

Stu 21-10-2009 07:29 PM

There is a plant called Salvia Divinorum that Shamans used in ancient cultures which when smoked at a sufficient dosage, would provide psychedelic trips to such an extent in a ten minuet period that users would literally live the full, complete life of an entirely different person in an entirely different space and time. All within the confines of there mind.

Also, DMT. Over to Rogan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

Niamh. 21-10-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2622216)
Woooooohoooooooooooo

Great conversation starter Joe:dance:

Scarlett. 21-10-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2622218)
I seriously do believe we will be at war with robots in like a million years or something, that is given that we arent all wiped out by the 'aliens' that are searching the universe for us,m the same as we are doing for them.

I mean seriously, people are obsessed with the idea of aliens, but there is bound to be something else out there, that is likely to be as obsessed with finding us, as we are with finding them, which will happen first?

Well, with a McFly song apparently sent out into space...I think they might avoid us now (Sorry Nicky! :shocked:)

Wildcat! 21-10-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2622180)
I never said it was a direct quote dufass.... no need to be like that. I studied Descartes at college and it was his doubt that gave birth to the famous quote.


Exactly. HIs theory was based on doubting everything. JUst like the OP here. HE is saying that in his dreams, he has similar experiences, as when he is awake. WHich make him conclude that he cant really say for sure, if he is awake or asleep. So he doubts that anything is real. SO after thinking to himself that its possible that nothing really exists, the only think thats for sure, is the doubt in his thoughts. And those doubts and thoughts, are the only think that proves, that he really exists: Which make him conclude: I think therefore, I am.

Descartes also uses that theory to prove the existence of god. Another story.:blush:

InOne 21-10-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2622222)
Great conversation starter Joe:dance:

I plant the seed, they run away with it!

Stu 21-10-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyJ (Post 2622218)
I seriously do believe we will be at war with robots in like a million years or something, that is given that we arent all wiped out by the 'aliens' that are searching the universe for us,m the same as we are doing for them.

I mean seriously, people are obsessed with the idea of aliens, but there is bound to be something else out there, that is likely to be as obsessed with finding us, as we are with finding them, which will happen first?

Maybe it was aliens who created us. A superrace now deceased or living in another universe who created us, left us here and let it all play out.

There is definitely something out there in the universe. It bugs me when people use science to say ''nothing can survive without water lolz''.

THAT'S THE POINT. ALIEN. NOT. LIKE. US.

Water could kill the bloody things!

Nicky. 21-10-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2622107)
I breathe air and I got a pulse and five working senses, I exist for I'd not have any of these otherwise.

What happens if you're deaf/blind etc, do you no exist if you only have 4 senses? tehehe >.<

Vicky. 21-10-2009 07:32 PM

Indeed, when you are alseep, and dreaming, you think you are awake, you get the same feelings etc. I still feel pain in my dreams, though apparently thats not possible...but yeah, when you are dreaming, you never think to yourself, I might be dreaming, you just accept that whatever is happening...is happening, if that makes sense.

This could well be a dream.

We might not even be alive yet. Maybe there is something we need to do to wake up, and this earth is just our imagination...there is something better out there.

Stu 21-10-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky. (Post 2622230)
What happens if you're deaf/blind etc, do you no exist if you only have 4 senses? tehehe >.<

Raises another interesting point. Many blind/deaf/both people have incredibly heightened inner sense of mind, due to being able to block off by default sensory distractions from the outside world.

Hence why people use sensory deprivation tanks when exploring such topics as this...

Patrick 21-10-2009 07:33 PM

I assume you all know of 2012, Being the end of the Mayan Calender, and people Assuming its the end of the world.

Im one of the few that belive its not the End of the world,BUT Somthing will happen that day that will change our world forever,

Like VickyJ Pointed out, there might be another type of people such as Aliens, searching for us!

They might have their own little world somewere, with their own Technology and their own version of Big Brother ..which I Would love to see..

But anyway, Maybe on 21st December 2012..These people may find us, or we may find them!

Somthing could happen on that day Good or Bad, that can change our world forever,
The end of the Mayan Calender, meaning the end of the way we think our world is today..
But infact it could just be the begining,

Like it says on the 2012 Trailer..

The End..Is just the begining


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