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Ramsay 21-11-2009 06:32 PM

Shes extremly overated

InOne 21-11-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiuMiu (Post 2697453)
That's what I think too.
Like Madonna, she'll have to reinvent herself every time to stay current.

I do think that Gaga has a good voice. To say that she has a wide range is ludachris. people like Mariah and Beyonce have a wide range.
She stays in the 2-3 octave range most of the time. Which is fine. :)

I also think she is really good at creating instant hit songs.
She knows what will go down well in the pop culture zetgeist that has become mainstream music and what will sell.
Gary, I would argue though that her more "Serious" songs like 'Speechless", "Again, Again" however prove that lyricaly she is not strong at all.
People in the mainstream like Ne-Yo and Keri Hilson are better lyricists really, if you listen closely.
But let's be honest, none come lose to those musicians workin outside of the mainstream like the Artic Monkey's, Rufus Wainright, Tori Amos, or countless others.

But where Gaga excels over most of her counterparts today in the mainstream is her ability to create the sense of intrigue/ fascination in her and her work.
She is a fantastic business lady.
Her outragous, houte couture outfits.
Her sometimes crazy antic's on shows such as her appearance on Jonathan Ross.
Her "Haus of Gaga/La maison de Gaga".
Her fascination with Andy Warhol and his ideals on the modern quest for fame.
Her creative above-the-norm videos like "Papparazzi" and "Bad Romance".
These are all truly, I believe, just publicity devices to fuel the crazy, kookoo image of Gaga. And thus to create public interest in her.
"What will she do next?" etc.
But, this could all very well be argued against by a Gaga fan/representative as Gaga just being "Artisic" too and everything she does comming under the banner of "Art".
SO smart!
:)

The best example of this I can find is the issue of whether or not Gaga could possible be a hermaphrodite or not.
She has Never publicly come out to say that she is or is not.
This is such a smart move I think.
Whatever it does, it gets people talking about her.
"Is she a man? I herad she was" and all that.
And as they say, any publicity is good publicity.

I like Gaga.
I like her catchy music, despite it's obvious downfalls.
I do not like the fact that she is an obvious fame *****.
But I respect her for being a very smart business lady and playing the media and mainstream pop-culture like she does her piano.

;)
I also believe that to say that she is a flash in the pan is a bit premature.
As I said before, she's smarter then most mainstream artists out there.
She can certainly manage I long lasting career I think if she contines to be as smart about managing her public image and how to create public interest in her and her music.
:)

Epic post!!!!

Tom4784 21-11-2009 06:33 PM

I find her quite interesting, She has a lot of potential.

Ninastar 21-11-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2697513)
I find her quite interesting, She has a lot of potential.

I thought you used to absoltley hate uer? maybe its someone else lol x

InOne 21-11-2009 06:46 PM

She is not great, or particularly special.

Tom4784 21-11-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 2697524)
I thought you used to absoltley hate uer? maybe its someone else lol x

She's growing on me.

Ninastar 21-11-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 2697549)
She's growing on me.

hehe this is good!!!! :)

Scarlett. 21-11-2009 07:10 PM

She is talented, but she is just starting to wear off now, Bad Romance isnt too impressive

Harry! 21-11-2009 07:14 PM

Madonna said that Lady Gaga reminds her of herself when she was started. Wich from the Queen of Pop that is a great comment to say.

Lady Gaga herself is a ok singer but unless she re-invents herself to a new style then she wont last long. That will help herself deeply.

*mazedsalv** 21-11-2009 07:20 PM

Her vocals are great, and her songs are very very good... makes up for her personality.
See, i dont really like her, but her songs are really good.

InOne 21-11-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recylopse (Post 2697601)
Madonna said that Lady Gaga reminds her of herself when she was started. Wich from the Queen of Pop that is a great comment to say.

Lady Gaga herself is a ok singer but unless she re-invents herself to a new style then she wont last long. That will help herself deeply.

Didn't she say that about Britney too? Maybe Madonna just goes on flavour of the week.

Harry! 21-11-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2697622)
Didn't she say that about Britney too? Maybe Madonna just goes on flavour of the week.

Britney has colabarated with Madonna many times most recently on her Human Nature backdrop for her Sticky and Sweet Tour (I post at the bottom)

Britney has had a great carear and unless Lady Gaga follows in Britney steps that wont happern.


InOne 21-11-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recylopse (Post 2697635)
Britney has colabarated with Madonna many times most recently on her Human Nature backdrop for her Sticky and Sweet Tour (I post at the bottom)

Britney has had a great carear and unless Lady Gaga follows in Britney steps that wont happern.


Madonna's voice is not too strong here. She almost seems nervous.

Harry! 21-11-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2697665)
Madonna's voice is not too strong here. She almost seems nervous.

Thats not her best preformance I have to say. But that song is a hard song to sing live take this version for instance. Not the best version.



The original music video.



PS - This is my second fave Madonna song!

KKBL 21-11-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2697503)
"coz I'm bluffin' with my muffin"

says it all really

She can't sing, she is autotuned like mad

Her songs sound the same

She has about a million gimmicks

In all I think shes just a massive gimmick with no talent, and once the bubble bursts she'll just be spat out into obscurity like everyone else who tries to be different

You obviously didn't see the video darren posted on the last page?
She can sing(amazingly).
& how can somebody who can play the piano like that(nevermind the vocals or songwriting) have no talent?

Stu 22-11-2009 12:26 PM

I think some of you are sort of missing the point. Lady GaGa is in the pop music business, and at that particular craft she succeeds extremely well and knows exactly how to draw attention to herself, which is essential. She is not Morrissey, John Lennon, or Johnny Rotten. If your approaching Lady GaGa looking for deep, introspective, political lyrics, your the idiot, not her. It's a different game.

Barbie 22-11-2009 12:35 PM

she can sing, i wouldn't say it was outstanding singing but then with music now you don't have to be a brilliant singer, if we all decided to only listen to outstanding singers then there wouldn't be many artists left

so i don't think she needs to be overly talented, she knows how to work the crowd and her audiences so she can just go for it

Stu 22-11-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbie (Post 2699039)
she can sing, i wouldn't say it was outstanding singing but then with music now you don't have to be a brilliant singer, if we all decided to only listen to outstanding singers then there wouldn't be many artists left

so i don't think she needs to be overly talented, she knows how to work the crowd and her audiences so she can just go for it

Exactly. I don't see the obsession people have with excellent singing voices. It's about using the voice you have. Did Johnny Rotten have a great singing voice? No. Couldn't sing a note. No vocal range. Did it matter? No. He is still one of the most memorable and prolific frontmen of all time, with one of the best and most memorable voices ever in popular music.

Then look at the flip side of the coin. How many great singers have come up through talent shows? Plenty. And virtually all of them don't have a lick of individuality, stage presence, or creativity.

Music should be art. Not a technical competition.

MeMyselfAndI 22-11-2009 12:39 PM

no shes CRAP

Smithy 22-11-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiuMiu (Post 2697453)
That's what I think too.
Like Madonna, she'll have to reinvent herself every time to stay current.

I do think that Gaga has a good voice. To say that she has a wide range is ludachris. people like Mariah and Beyonce have a wide range.
She stays in the 2-3 octave range most of the time. Which is fine. :)

I also think she is really good at creating instant hit songs.
She knows what will go down well in the pop culture zetgeist that has become mainstream music and what will sell.
Gary, I would argue though that her more "Serious" songs like 'Speechless", "Again, Again" however prove that lyricaly she is not strong at all.
People in the mainstream like Ne-Yo and Keri Hilson are better lyricists really, if you listen closely.
But let's be honest, none come lose to those musicians workin outside of the mainstream like the Artic Monkey's, Rufus Wainright, Tori Amos, or countless others.

But where Gaga excels over most of her counterparts today in the mainstream is her ability to create the sense of intrigue/ fascination in her and her work.
She is a fantastic business lady.
Her outragous, houte couture outfits.
Her sometimes crazy antic's on shows such as her appearance on Jonathan Ross.
Her "Haus of Gaga/La maison de Gaga".
Her fascination with Andy Warhol and his ideals on the modern quest for fame.
Her creative above-the-norm videos like "Papparazzi" and "Bad Romance".
These are all truly, I believe, just publicity devices to fuel the crazy, kookoo image of Gaga. And thus to create public interest in her.
"What will she do next?" etc.
But, this could all very well be argued against by a Gaga fan/representative as Gaga just being "Artisic" too and everything she does comming under the banner of "Art".
SO smart!
:)

The best example of this I can find is the issue of whether or not Gaga could possible be a hermaphrodite or not.
She has Never publicly come out to say that she is or is not.
This is such a smart move I think.
Whatever it does, it gets people talking about her.
"Is she a man? I herad she was" and all that.
And as they say, any publicity is good publicity.

I like Gaga.
I like her catchy music, despite it's obvious downfalls.
I do not like the fact that she is an obvious fame *****.
But I respect her for being a very smart business lady and playing the media and mainstream pop-culture like she does her piano.

;)
I also believe that to say that she is a flash in the pan is a bit premature.
As I said before, she's smarter then most mainstream artists out there.
She can certainly manage I long lasting career I think if she contines to be as smart about managing her public image and how to create public interest in her and her music.
:)

^ OMG KEEN ^
anyway i love gaga she writes all her own songs & has a great voice

'Conor 22-11-2009 01:33 PM

i dont like lady gaga at all some of her music is ok

MiuMiu 22-11-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2697510)
Epic post!!!!

Thank you lol!

Tom4784 22-11-2009 03:24 PM

I think it's too early to say, she does pop extremely well. I'll judge her after a few albums.


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