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Nicky. 02-12-2009 01:56 PM

You'd have to :\
Other people around you in the street will understand your problems, because they'll be in the same situation.
Also, council houses are stereotyped as horrible, messy houses.. but that's because of the people who live in them usually, and it's those people who end up in that situation...

No offence to anyone aha!

lily. 05-12-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2712478)
Not meant in a judgemental way, perhaps some people on here already do.

Would you do it if you HAD to, even with the stigma attached to it?

What stigma?

Shaun 05-12-2009 10:42 PM

I wouldn't like to, but if I had to, yes. What else would I do? Go homeless?

I have family who live in it, and I'm not ashamed of them. **** the stigma.

lily. 05-12-2009 10:42 PM

I live in a council house... and I personally think you are a snobby bastard for having the views you do Tom.





Oh yeah,, and no offense..

InOne 05-12-2009 10:44 PM

I'm a working class hero!

Beastie 05-12-2009 10:44 PM

I would as a last resort but it is not something to take advantage off. A problem in the UK is that we do have lazy chuffers who would rather sit in their council house and smoke weed all day...

lily. 05-12-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2736284)
I'm a working class hero!


I never made it as a working class hero.......;)

Beastie 05-12-2009 10:46 PM

I would say I am working class at the moment.

Patrick 05-12-2009 10:47 PM

FA wrong with it

Billy 05-12-2009 10:48 PM

I do.
My mum's a single mum who cannot work due to illness and is on benefits, and we live in a council house.
But we're not chavs.

InOne 05-12-2009 10:48 PM

There has been a class shift though, the working class of the 70's does not exist.

Lewis. 05-12-2009 10:48 PM

yeah.. The governement seem to give more advantages to people on benefits anyway. A Lady in my street has never payed rent, lives on benefits, gets nice new doors and new windows.. a nice new kitchen, has never worked a day in her life
My mum has worked all of her life and we don't get new kitchens and doors etc. I live in a council house but we rent it with our own money, it's under the same council company aswell, it all seems a bit unfair really. I mean, fair enough if you are unable to work because of illness, but the woman spends every day on her ass watching daytime TV and is quite capable of working. I mean, I'm 14 and I have a 16 hour a week job.. 30 hours in holiday weeks... Surely a healthy 27 year old girl can get a job somewhere

lily. 05-12-2009 10:49 PM

The whole question just reeks of snobbery. It's essentially saying that it would be the worst thing in the world to claim benefits and live in council housing.

I don't claim benefits, but I live in council housing. Not because I have to, but because I'm working class. Worked since I was 16 til I had my kids. My husband works and he earns a **** wage, as we live in an area which is renowned for **** wages (just ask Billy).

We don't have the opportunities some of you have. We weren't all born with a silver effing spoon in our mouth. Sorry for being irate, but this kind of thing irks the ***** out of me.

Beastie 05-12-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736311)
The whole question just reeks of snobbery. It's essentially saying that it would be the worst thing in the world to claim benefits and live in council housing.

I don't claim benefits, but I live in council housing. Not because I have to, but because I'm working class. Worked since I was 16 til I had my kids. My husband works and he earns a **** wage, as we live in an area which is renowned for **** wages (just ask Billy).

We don't have the opportunities some of you have. We weren't all born with a silver effing spoon in our mouth. Sorry for being irate, but this kind of thing irks the ***** out of me.

It is not snobbery at all but there are SOME capable people in the UK who take advantage and sponge off the system. Fair enough to the people who have genuine illness or can't find a job after hunting everyday for one.

lily. 05-12-2009 10:55 PM

You don't think it's snobbery to talk about council housing like it's some kind of hellhole?

Billy 05-12-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736311)
The whole question just reeks of snobbery. It's essentially saying that it would be the worst thing in the world to claim benefits and live in council housing.

I don't claim benefits, but I live in council housing. Not because I have to, but because I'm working class. Worked since I was 16 til I had my kids. My husband works and he earns a **** wage, as we live in an area which is renowned for **** wages (just ask Billy).

We don't have the opportunities some of you have. We weren't all born with a silver effing spoon in our mouth. Sorry for being irate, but this kind of thing irks the ***** out of me.

what she said.

Lewis. 05-12-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736328)
It is not snobbery at all but there are SOME capable people in the UK who take advantage and sponge off the system. Fair enough to the people who have genuine illness or can't find a job after hunting everyday for one.

I agree. There are genuinely people who need the system to live their lives adequately, but there are some who take advantage of it

Billy 05-12-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LewisLeona (Post 2736339)
I agree. There are genuinely people who need the system to live their lives adequately, but there are some who take advantage of it

The question is still snobby though, cos it's insinuating that living in a council house etc is the lowest of the low.

Beastie 05-12-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy (Post 2736342)
The question is still snobby though, cos it's insinuating that living in a council house etc is the lowest of the low.


It is not we are just openly talking about it. I don't think of any less of someone who lives in a council house over someone who lives in a mansion.

InOne 05-12-2009 10:59 PM

The question though itself, the 'If you had to' bit.

Beastie 05-12-2009 10:59 PM

A council house is not even the lowest of the low, some council houses are better than some houses people pay rent or mortgages for.

Billy 05-12-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 2736352)
It is not we are just openly talking about it. I don't think of any less of someone who lives in a council house over someone who lives in a mansion.

it bloody is. "if you had to", as if we're bloody diseased or something.

lily. 05-12-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy (Post 2736342)
The question is still snobby though, cos it's insinuating that living in a council house etc is the lowest of the low.

Yup. And, note that people who don't live in council housing don't seem to see that they are coming across as judgemental.

I don't go around making assumptions about people who live in private estates... and I'd ask you not to make assumptions about us, but frankly, I don't give a flying ***** what you think now.

InOne 05-12-2009 11:04 PM

Yeah, nothing wrong with it. Live and let live, which some people just can't do, therefore rely on Stereotypes

Tom 05-12-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lili (Post 2736260)
What stigma?

Are you actually that oblivious?

Oh and for the record I never said there was anything wrong with it, just based on what other people think about it.


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