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setanta 11-02-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 2974318)
Sounds good. I used to play for pub teams and that, but it was a really serious one and they got actually annoyed at you if you lost, not just banter. So like stopped all that, took the fun out of the game.

Yeah, I'd say it can get a bit mad when you involve yourself with a team.

InOne 11-02-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2974324)
Yeah, I'd say it can get a bit mad when you involve yourself with a team.

Indeed lol I like the ones who get pissed before the game. It's on the older ones though, the 'big' names, still holding on to glory lol

PaulyJ 11-02-2010 07:20 PM

Err No, it's a game, like Darts is, like Chess is, i love Darts don't like Snooker much now, it use to be full of characters like Taylor and Stevens, and the boozy Alex Higgins.

My rule of thumb, If you can wear shoes then it's not a Sport, add golf to the list of Games as well.

Patrick 11-02-2010 07:21 PM

More of a sport than that WWE bollocks.

Alf 11-02-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2974672)
Err No, it's a game, like Darts is, like Chess is, i love Darts don't like Snooker much now, it use to be full of characters like Taylor and Stevens, and the boozy Alex Higgins.

My rule of thumb, If you can wear shoes then it's not a Sport, add golf to the list of Games as well.

well you can add football, rugby, tennis and cricket to your list they're all games too

cant believe your comparing darts and snooker to hungry hippo's and twister

PaulyJ 11-02-2010 07:39 PM

Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes

Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.

Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

Firewire 11-02-2010 07:41 PM

Yes it's a sport.

Shasown 11-02-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2974721)

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

Fishing, shooting, archery, bowls(crown green) to name a couple or four.

Alf 11-02-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2974721)
Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes

Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.

Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

when your playing a game of snooker or darts for £50,000 in front of thousands of spectators, i think the heart will be racing a little bit dont you?

PaulyJ 11-02-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 2974760)
Fishing, shooting, archery, bowls(crown green) to name a couple or four.

Fishing is Hunting, even if you put the fishy back in. Yes you compete against people, but, Sport is about equal participation, between all participants, if you ask the fish he would agree with me that "This is no Sport"

Bowls, Archery, Shooting, are Professional Pass times................. Ok i am joking. Yep your right, Rule of Thumb Broken

But where are you drawing the line, do you consider Tidlywinks a Sport?

I draw the Line at a competition including Athletic Activity, and no Shoes.

LemonJam 11-02-2010 08:12 PM

I really like snooker, I'd say it was.

Stu 12-02-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 2974674)
More of a sport than that WWE bollocks.

Who said it was meant to be a sport? Was Die Hard a documentary? Mong.

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Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2974721)
Shoes, as in I'm just off to the office Dear, Have you seen my Shoes

Football Boots
Tennis = Trainers
Cricket, erm, i'm not sure but they are not the type of shoe i had in mind.

Hungry Hippo is a game yes, yes how very sarcastic you made that connection, but i will say that Hungry Hippo is a Child's game, also a recreational game, also non professional. These are the things that seperate Snooker and Hungry Hippo, not the title of Sport or Game.

I have a second rule of thumb, If your heart rate does not increase substantially whilst playing then it's not a sport.

What activity breaks that rule which you would wish to call a sport?

What a brilliantly convoluted way of looking at things.

PaulyJ 12-02-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 2976004)

What a brilliantly convoluted way of looking at things.


Ok i will stop prattling on and simply ask of the Forum

Is Conckers a Sport?
Is Croquet a Sport?
Is Cherards a Sport?

What definition defines a Sport? Because if it is not Athleticism then Sport is going to become a Pointless description for me

Stu 12-02-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulyJ (Post 2976557)
Ok i will stop prattling on and simply ask of the Forum

Is Conckers a Sport?
Is Croquet a Sport?
Is Cherards a Sport?

What definition defines a Sport? Because if it is not Athleticism then Sport is going to become a Pointless description for me

I know pretty much zero about those games to comment, but I think most people use common sense to define what's a sport.

Chess & Snooker for instance. Sure, they both require great mental thinking but pretty much zero physical strain but one is always on telly, is always played in front of crowds, has some very well known figures, officialy endorsed console games and pretty much operates like a sport from the ground up and is received as a sport because it is transmitted as a sport, public perception wise.

Ergo Snooker is a sport, Chess is not.

Mind you like Chess, Snooker can also be seen as a recreational 'game'. Two drunk goons in the backroom of a pub are not competing in a major sporting event.

Ronnie O'Sullivan, however, is.

PaulyJ 12-02-2010 03:38 PM

It is not Common Sense to define such things by current trend, and public perception.
in the 60s and 70s Chess was tellevised, and competition today is in front of large crowds. Chess was a Sport then but now it is not now? There was a brief period in the 90's when Garry Kasperov was beaten by Deep Blue(a computer) Chess became very popular again, did Chess suddenly contain more "Sporting" content?

I dont think Sport should have a changeable Definition. I think it is fixed.

A celebrity can lose the Celebrity tag when they become unpopular, but i don't think Sport can be treated that way.

Even the Dictionary definitions of Sport are confused on this matter so public perception and trends will hold the majority view i guess. But if memory serves Snooker has been finding it hard to get revenue's for Prizes, Top Players needing to get jobs to pay the bills, it may soon fall the way of Chess, by your thinking it is losing it's "Sportiness"

Stu 12-02-2010 03:50 PM

Not with Barry Hearn taking charge this year. He saved Darts, so hopefully he can do some good for Snooker.

Snooker has been finding it hard to get revenues for some time now since it became illegal for them to use tobacco companies as sponsers - who traditionally would have sponsered the big tournaments.

The game has two primary problems : Not enough characters - people pay to see Ronnie, but that's about it - and the new generation of sports fan just dosn't have the attention span to absorb what a great game it can be.

If television as a whole is going down the toilet in favour of the internet due to the short attention span of youth, Snooker - a pedantic and calculating game at the best of times - was clearly always going to suffer.

Claymores 12-02-2010 04:12 PM

Topless Darts is the biggie sport JI - came on in early 90s just after the weather with midget on trampoline called bouncy trying to bounce high enough to show us where it was gonna Snow in Scotland

Claymores 12-02-2010 04:15 PM

Topless snooker? the ref a female lying over tbe table relpacing the balls? No wornder LIVE TV went bust with only topless darts

Stu 12-02-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 2976869)
Topless snooker? the ref a female lying over tbe table relpacing the balls? No wornder LIVE TV went bust with only topless darts

http://images.google.ie/images?hl=en...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

:lovedup:

ILoveTRW 12-02-2010 04:22 PM

OMG how dare you have this pathetic topic in the serious debate section

im going to have an uber fit because im a premenstrual slag

Stu 12-02-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2976898)
OMG how dare you have this pathetic topic in the serious debate section

im going to have an uber fit because im a premenstrual slag

What sort of a debate is it then, a parody debate?

ILoveTRW 12-02-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 2976911)
What sort of a debate is it then, a parody debate?

this should be in the sport section *hyperventilates*

Jack_ 12-02-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 2976887)

I love that woman, feisty - you would not mess with her.

Oh, and ILoveDC, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think your topics should've been moved either.

ILoveTRW 12-02-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 2976932)
I love that woman, feisty - you would not mess with her.

Oh, and ILoveDC, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think your topics should've been moved either.

lol this wasnt targeted at you sorry

its targeted at the thick **** mod who are incapable of moderating

Stu 12-02-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveDC (Post 2976920)
this should be in the sport section *hyperventilates*

It's a debate. A debate with room for an intelligent debate. Ergo, It can be in either section.


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