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Sticks 10-03-2010 06:50 AM

This incident is similar to one I heard of several years ago, before the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa where there was segregation and white minority rule. During that time there were calls for sanctions against South Africa, but Mrs Thatcher refused point blank to carry them out.

In this case, in the uk a supermarket checkout operator refused point blank to sell to a customer a grapefruit because it was from South Africa and she deeply believed that there should be a boycott of all South African goods.

Moving on to today and religion, I understand that in the medical profession there is a get out clause so professionals can opt out of abortion proceses on grounds of concience

I am wondering if this pharmacist believed they had the same rights here

Incidentally the story in full here

Shasown 10-03-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3073137)
This incident is similar to one I heard of several years ago, before the end of the apartheid regime in South Africa where there was segregation and white minority rule. During that time there were calls for sanctions against South Africa, but Mrs Thatcher refused point blank to carry them out.

In this case, in the uk a supermarket checkout operator refused point blank to sell to a customer a grapefruit because it was from South Africa and she deeply believed that there should be a boycott of all South African goods.

Moving on to today and religion, I understand that in the medical profession there is a get out clause so professionals can opt out of abortion proceses on grounds of concience

I am wondering if this pharmacist believed they had the same rights here

Incidentally the story in full here

The pharmacist does have similar rights.

Quote:

The Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain (RPSGB) said the pharmacist was acting within her rights.

The spokesman said:'While the Code of Ethics and Standards does not require a pharmacist to provide a service that is contrary to their religious or moral beliefs, any attempt by a pharmacist to impose their beliefs on a member of the public seeking their professional guidance, or a failure to have systems in place to advise of alternative sources for the service required, would be of great concern to the RPSGB and could form the basis of a complaint of professional misconduct
The only considerations are when denying to serve the woman, did the pharmacist give sufficient information about other times or places where the women could be served and have her prescription filled? Was the pharmacist imposing her religious belief on the woman?

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 08:23 AM

I would suggest that the story is more about the woman involved than a story about religion..

arista 10-03-2010 08:37 AM

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=132670

Enid I posted this topic Yesterday
it is on this first page.

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 3073158)
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=132670

Enid I posted this topic Yesterday
it is on this first page.

I like this thread better. More information, better replies, more gravitas. Arista, you are losing your touch..

arista 10-03-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3073160)
I like this thread better. More information, better replies, more gravitas. Arista, you are losing your touch..

Of Course you want this one more.

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 3073161)
Of Course you want this one more.

I see you concur this the better of the 2 threads

arista 10-03-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3073163)
I see you concur this the better of the 2 threads

You are Not a Good Poster
to concur.

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3073165)
You are Not a Good Poster
to concur.

agreeing with yourself is not a good look

arista 10-03-2010 08:57 AM

This thread has done well
as LT
has not entered it.

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 09:02 AM

and Arista you voted this thread 1 star which is mean to Enid you big stinker

arista 10-03-2010 09:43 AM

And Typical of LT
he voted this thread Terrible.

Enid 10-03-2010 11:03 AM

arista, I wouldn't have made a new thread if I had known someone made one first.

This is obviously not the right profession for her, if she can't leave her religion at the door. It's her job to do this. She's getting paid for it. If she can't handle it, **** and let someone else do it who is more capable.

Niamh. 10-03-2010 11:04 AM

lol, crazy, why on earth be a pharmastist in the first place?

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3073183)
And Typical of LT
he voted this thread Terrible.

I like to balance your perpetual 5 star personal highfiveism

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 11:10 AM

I would keep her on and tell the old lady to go to Boots in future

teamandre 10-03-2010 11:11 AM

thats sick

Enid 10-03-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 3071201)

Lol, I recognise those flats in the background. Near town, but possibly roughest area of Sheffield. Why do you think that pharmacy is covered in all that strange barb wired sh!t.

Niamh. 10-03-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3073152)
I would suggest that the story is more about the woman involved than a story about religion..

Yes and no.

Yes most people don't do everyithing their religions say they should or shouldn't, like most people I know are catholics and contraception is against the religion but most of them use it anyway.

But No because as It is against some religions beliefs, in her mind she is breaking her religions rules by handing over contraceptives.

So, you are therefore saying that people should just pick and chose which religious rules they should or should not follow?

I would say If it's against your religion then don't be a pharmacist

Claymores 10-03-2010 11:30 AM

I was refused by the Catholic church to be my girl's sister's son's godparent. Her sister wanted us but I'm an aethiest - at the christening I just stood at the back of the church while my girl became godmum.

Religion suks - as if I'd not help the kid if anything untoward happened to his parents.

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3073268)
Yes and no.

Yes most people don't do everyithing their religions say they should or shouldn't, like most people I know are catholics and contraception is against the religion but most of them use it anyway.

But No because as It is against some religions beliefs, in her mind she is breaking her religions rules by handing over contraceptives.

So, you are therefore saying that people should just pick and chose which religious rules they should or should not follow?

I would say If it's against your religion then don't be a pharmacist


what are the religious rules that your refer to. Christian ones will do?

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 11:48 AM

i am excited to see whose mad pharmacist thread will win by 5pm today

Arista or Enid

it is neck and neck at the moment

Niamh. 10-03-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3073292)
what are the religious rules that your refer to. Christian ones will do?

well, I am refering to this particular case, I know it is against Catholics rules to use contraception, I think Muslim also. Though it doesn't say what religion this lady was. Every topic involving religion doesn't have to be about christianity LT!

Claymores 10-03-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3073292)
what are the religious rules that your refer to. Christian ones will do?

Can Gavin help us clarify the religious rules Leather? Or is he busy jumbo spotting with President?

Crimson Dynamo 10-03-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3073295)
well, I am refering to this particular case, I know it is against Catholics rules to use contraception, I think Muslim also. Though it doesn't say what religion this lady was. Every topic involving religion doesn't have to be about christianity LT!

I know, I just thought it may be easier to state. I am however not sure what rules Christians have to adhere to apart from the the commandments.

I cant recall any regarding serving someone with contraceptives for pain relief?


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