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Shasown 18-04-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172473)
As we prepare for the last series on Channel 4, we ask can Big Brother really survive on another channel?



Finally, Davina MUST stay! Big Brother isn’t Big Brother without her. The ratings would slump even further if she was to be sacked. The original format must also remain, but with decisive changes.

Big Brother could have a bright future on another broadcaster if the right changes were made and enough support was pledged by the channel to support it!

Yes it would nice be nice to see another station air BB if thats what you mean, whilst you post showed your loyalty for the show which is commendable, it also showed some strange idiosynchrasies.

The show didnt lose support because of a lack of advertising, the show lost viewers because its decided to turn it into a freak show as opposed to a show that had main stream appeal.

The original format doesnt bear too close a resemblance to the freak show they now have( Housemates allowed out of the house into the centre of London, last years partnership puke fest).

What do you mean the original format with decisive changes?

Its not about a channel supporting it, its about sponsors wanting to sponsor it in the hope the increased advertising they receive has a good effect on sales of their product.

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172540)
Clearly it is. :p

Its just the fact C4 want to revamp their channel.

Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.

In other countries its just a TV Show where as here its like a big thing every year.

It clearly isn't big here anymore Patrick. It had literally almost 0 media coverage last year.
Contrary to many countries, the UK version of BB isn't "the show" no one can miss, it got eaten alive by BGT, the X Factor, there's no fever anymore.

Take a look in Italy, in Spain, in the Philippines, in Germany...

Raph 18-04-2010 03:21 PM

Yes. Honestly, BBUK is the most wicked show ever! It'll do well anywhere ;)

Patrick 18-04-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by officialleafan (Post 3172765)
i can't stand the thought of this time next year, no BB being on :(

IKR.

Even if it does get picked up, I cant see it all happening within a year.

I actually wont know what to do with myself come Summer 2011.. It will be dark times, dark times indeed.

That may seem incrediably sad to anyone who isnt a BB Fan but if you've spent Over 5 Years watching a show to the point it becomes part of your summer (Like im sure you all have) well then it feels really awkward and sad without it.

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172908)
IKR.

Even if it does get picked up, I cant see it all happening within a year.

I actually wont know what to do with myself come Summer 2011.. It will be dark times, dark times indeed.

That may seem incrediably sad to anyone who isnt a BB Fan but if you've spent Over 5 Years watching a show to the point it becomes part of your summer (Like im sure you all have) well then it feels really awkward and sad without it.

That's what happened to the few of us in here who loved Big Brother Australia. It felt so so empty when it got cancelled. It usually was held around april/may and something didn't feel right but you overcome this and you find something else to do. :hugesmile: I still miss it tho.

iRyan 18-04-2010 04:44 PM

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Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.
That's true, but it's because in America there are ACTUAL celebrities that people care more to hear about, unfortunely. I personally am so sick of our obsession over celebrities.

But it is still extremely popular, most of the people I know in my school all watch it and talk about it. And it does get media coverage in the beginning, and to some extent some of the people who have been on it experience some fame, like Jeff and Jordan from BB11.

Alot of people say ours is fake and edited to death, but really it's not and that's why people watch the live feeds. So you know EXACTLY what is going on, but most people tune into the real show to see the competitions because those don't air on the feeds. As a live feeds watcher, most of what is shown in the edited shows is true to what is actually occuring on the feeds. Although it can be in some cases where once CBS discovers a fan favorite, they are edited to be the "star of the show" since it's what people want to see.

One of the things that makes the show so popular is that it's heavily advertised. CBS is argueably the biggest and most powerful television station in the US, and the president of CBS' wife hosts the show. Therefore, it's probably not something that would be easily cancelled. But anyway, like every 20 minutes on the channel they show a commercial advertising the show. Like when Chima quit, it was SO heavily hyped and advertised that that episode became the highest rated of the series.

Ruth*Star 18-04-2010 04:52 PM

It is still popular in America, It did fantastic ratings there last year as far as i know.

Patrick 18-04-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruth*Star (Post 3173105)
It is still popular in America, It did fantastic ratings there last year as far as i know.

I didnt say it wasnt.

Im not talking about USA.

MrGaryy 18-04-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3172915)
That's what happened to the few of us in here who loved Big Brother Australia. It felt so so empty when it got cancelled. It usually was held around april/may and something didn't feel right but you overcome this and you find something else to do. :hugesmile: I still miss it tho.

I miss BBAU very much still LOL. But at least it went out on a high!

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 3173123)
I miss BBAU very much still LOL. But at least it went out on a high!

I know. I even came to the conclusion that I miss Gretel LMAO :hugesmile: I sometimes do watch random clips on Youtube. It was brilliant.

Harry! 18-04-2010 06:29 PM

It will have lower raitings on another channel.

Tom4784 18-04-2010 06:38 PM

The thing is that the general public just don't care anymore, any other channel could pick it up and it'll be dropped after a series because the format is tired and old hat.

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 07:03 PM

I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

Patrick 18-04-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Recylopse (Post 3173245)
It will have lower raitings on another channel.

Depends on BB11 Does and how much the other channel put effort into it.

BigBrotherfan4ever 18-04-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173323)
I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

I hope your right BL, i think maybe when BB starts in a few week we will here of different channel in bidding for it..BTBH i really dont see anyone taking it sadly:bawling:

Tom4784 18-04-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173323)
I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

But the problem is that 2-3 million viewers isn't enough for the terrestial channels. The only realistic aspect is possibly Channel 5 but then they have a lower viewership then C4 so it wouldn't last long there either. The problem is that the format peaked a few BB's back and a survivor-esque format like the US version probably wouldn't take here as there's been plenty of shows that have tried a similar format and failed.

It COULD come back in fair few years time but I don't see it happening, the intrigue has gone, people are over this type of reality TV. There's only really I'm a Celeb left and I can see that being axed sooner rather then later. Reality TV's all about Talent competitions now. BB-esque shows have had their day.

BBDodge 18-04-2010 07:14 PM

Of course it could.

But I don't see any other channel willing to commit resources at present. Maybe in 2 years time. I don't think there will be a BB 2011.

Beastie 18-04-2010 07:28 PM

It will end.. it will have a break then in a few years it will return. There will be hardly anything to watch in the summer. The big gap between BGT and The X Factor.. BB will be back. I bet if it does come back after a few years break.. it will have a different format. It will probably be turned more like.. into a game show.

Patrick 18-04-2010 07:28 PM

CBB Did really well and that got 2 channels to show intrest the minute it ended, imagine if the real series does better than CBB seriously channels will be fighting for it.

Beastie 18-04-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3173367)
CBB Did really well and that got 2 channels to show intrest the minute it ended, imagine if the real series does better than CBB seriously channels will be fighting for it.

Well bb7 had good ratings and then after that series people lost interest because it was full of stupid people in bb8 and no one took it seriously.

Maybe for bb11 you can't be a housemate unless you have at least an AVERAGE IQ. Okay you may think this sounds "snobby" but.. it is a change to a lot of the "stupid" housemates we usually get! We have thrived on stupidity long enough.

Tom4784 18-04-2010 07:33 PM

CBB is the only real chance it has of continuing and even then if a lesser channel picks it up it'll bomb as the last series only did so well because it had recognisable celebs in it.

At the end of the day how many shows in the past ten years have been saved after being axed? Considering a lot more successful shows have come and gone it doesn't bode well. Oh, and Family Guy had a huge campaign behind it so that doesn't count. Most likely it'll come back in a fair few years time.

If C4's replacement programming does well next year though you can probably kiss BB goodbye.

Beastie 18-04-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3173374)
CBB is the only real chance it has of continuing and even then if a lesser channel picks it up it'll bomb as the last series only did so well because it had recognisable celebs in it.

At the end of the day how many shows in the past ten years have been saved after being axed? Considering a lot more successful shows have come and gone it doesn't bode well. Oh, and Family Guy had a huge campaign behind it so that doesn't count. Most likely it'll come back in a fair few years time, If C4's replacement programming does well next year you can probably kiss BB goodbye.

This. My guess is though channel 4's replacement programming will not be a success. It will be bog off niche market shows I am guessing with a lot of old tv shows on repeat. Next year when BB is not on people will be complaining that there is "nothing to watch".

Patrick 18-04-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3173373)
Well bb7 had good ratings and then after that series people lost interest because it was full of stupid people in bb8 and no one took it seriously.

The only reason BB8 was **** and everybody turned off was because of CBB5 and thats the reason tbh.

BB8 had potential but once the producers seen that no one gave a **** about it they just cba doing any good twist or task and it was a mess.

Thank fully the CBB in between BB10 and BB11 didnt cause a race row and was one of the most watched Series in a long time so it does give BB11's launch a head start in the ratings.

30stone 18-04-2010 07:40 PM

It would do better on other channels imo.

Not many people watch channel 4 as it is, bbc 1 bbc 2 and itv have much bigger audiences..

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3173347)
But the problem is that 2-3 million viewers isn't enough for the terrestial channels. The only realistic aspect is possibly Channel 5 but then they have a lower viewership then C4 so it wouldn't last long there either. The problem is that the format peaked a few BB's back and a survivor-esque format like the US version probably wouldn't take here as there's been plenty of shows that have tried a similar format and failed.

It COULD come back in fair few years time but I don't see it happening, the intrigue has gone, people are over this type of reality TV. There's only really I'm a Celeb left and I can see that being axed sooner rather then later. Reality TV's all about Talent competitions now. BB-esque shows have had their day.

Lol? Are you familiar with tv production?

A long running tv show at 2-3+ million viewers is not bad figures. It is bad figures in comparison to what they once achieved but in television broadcast terms it is not.

Especially for an ex-niche tv channel like C4.


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