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BB_Eye 07-05-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3215079)
all this lib and lab stuff is like one long fanny pad thread

:joker:

I am hoping for electoral reform to be pushed through, by any means necessary. I have no problem with Clegg co-operating with the Labour party and don't think it will make him a hypocrite (he is a hypocrite anyway) so long as it means the Tories don't have carte blanche in creating legislation... which may make the referendum I'm hoping for impossible.

ange7 07-05-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3215107)
:joker:

I am hoping for electoral reform to be pushed through, by any means necessary. I have no problem with Clegg co-operating with the Labour party and don't think it will make him a hypocrite (he is a hypocrite anyway) so long as it means the Tories don't have carte blanche in creating legislation... which may make the referendum I'm hoping for impossible.

what referendum question are you hoping for?

BB_Eye 07-05-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3215113)
what referendum question are you hoping for?

Electoral reform, replacing First Past the Post with Proportional Representation. I'm tired of my vote not counting.

ange7 07-05-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3215134)
Electoral reform, replacing First Past the Post with Proportional Representation. I'm tired of my vote not counting.

oh ... like the Greek or Italian system? not good dude. And your equally likely to feel as though your vote didn't count. That's democracy mate ... just because your choice didn't win doesn't mean your vote was wasted.

Chels 07-05-2010 12:07 PM

lib/lab

Enid 07-05-2010 12:13 PM

Lib/Lab

****ers. Conservative are winning more seats.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/

BB_Eye 07-05-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ange7 (Post 3215143)
oh ... like the Greek or Italian system? not good dude. And your equally likely to feel as though your vote didn't count. That's democracy mate ... just because your choice didn't win doesn't mean your vote was wasted.

Tell that to someone who lives in a 70% Labour stronghold with a small population. I simply don't like...

1. My vote being rendered null and void when it comes to deciding the ruling party or even the main opposition.

2. Having no opportunity to vote for an independent candidate when I still have misgivings about the policies of all three main parties.

3. The electorate being consigned to tactical voting as a means to an end as opposed to voting for the party which actually represents their ideology.

Don't get me wrong, I recognise the weaknesses of PR and not every MP will an accurate representation of the the interests of their constituents, but at a national level, it the more democratic system.

Plus, anyone can draw comparisons to other countries with different political systems. What about the US and the failure the electoral college system which gave Bush an extremely dubious victory in 2000? I just think PR would work for the UK and believe a referendum would show that I am not the only one.

Enid 07-05-2010 12:19 PM

http://infobeautiful.s3.amazonaws.co...ht_EU_1416.gif

NettoSuperstar! 07-05-2010 12:21 PM

Lib/Lab/other progressive parties joined together...Libs and Cons are quite removed idealogicaly for it to work unless the Tories are going to do some major bending over

BB_Eye 07-05-2010 12:51 PM

Lol, that ludicrously oversimplified view of left and right on the poster made me think how much of a stereotypical boring conservative my dad is.

Callum 07-05-2010 01:07 PM

Lib/con

Crimson Dynamo 07-05-2010 01:58 PM

I remember once there was a Dung Parliament

whooeeee

that baby stunk

BigBrotherfan4ever 07-05-2010 03:02 PM

Lib/lab

Lucy. 07-05-2010 03:08 PM

Lib/Lab definantly but unfortunately I think Clegg is edging towards Cameron :'(

Angus 07-05-2010 05:44 PM

If it takes an overall majority of 326 seats to govern, then a Lab/Lib coalition won't wash, since together they will have only 315 seats. A Con/Lib coalition will give an overall majority of 363 seats which will provide an effective government.

Therefore if a Lab/Lib coalition is still only a minority government, then Cameron has more right to govern as such already. END OF.

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 05:46 PM

Lib/Lab

Lucy. 07-05-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3215650)
If it takes an overall majority of 326 seats to govern, then a Lab/Lib coalition won't wash, since together they will have only 315 seats. A Con/Lib coalition will give an overall majority of 363 seats which will provide an effective government.

Therefore if a Lab/Lib coalition is still only a minority government, then Cameron has more right to govern as such already. END OF.

Funny how I got told off for 'END OF' yesterday. That isn't true anyway, they could fill the extra seats with another minority party.

Tom4784 07-05-2010 05:52 PM

Lib/Lab

arista 07-05-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3215665)
Lib/Lab


Dezzy
They do not even have Enough seats. (united)



Thats Why
David and Nick are in Talks

Braden 07-05-2010 05:56 PM

Lib/Lab.

I want the green party to win at heart though.

arista 07-05-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braden (Post 3215671)
Lib/Lab.

I want the green party to win at heart though.



Labour Lost
They are to be Kicked Out of Power
by David and Nick
who are Now in Official Talks

Tom4784 07-05-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 3215668)
Dezzy
They do not even have Enough seats. (united)



Thats Why
David and Nick are in Talks

Yeah that's nice Arista, Here's a ball go fetch!

Spike 07-05-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar! (Post 3215153)
Lib/Lab/other progressive parties joined together...Libs and Cons are quite removed idealogicaly for it to work unless the Tories are going to do some major bending over

I think Cameron would try and go the extra step to get the Lib Dem support but it will take some convincing the rest of his party, especially those to the right, to give in to the Lib Dems.
I just can't see it happening and if it does I wouldn't expect it to last more than 6months

Scarlett. 07-05-2010 05:59 PM

Conservatives technically lost too, since they didnt manage to get a majority

http://phoenixdiversions.files.wordp...meron_fail.jpg

Firewire 07-05-2010 06:01 PM

Lib/Lab


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