Ben:Snivelling,backtracking 'oh look how cultured and posh i am','my fwends can't play with other people'childish whingeface.

I like him but yeah he is probably the most manipulative hm in the house......

lol,that said,dont want Ben to go;him v/with jj/mario/the girls/shabby/govan is interesting.

The likes of Dave,Steve and Nathan not being nominated and staying cos they fly under the radar,will turn this series into BB4:sleep:

I didn't take to Ben at first but I am enjoying him now, I hope he doesn't go come Friday.

And he's a 30 year old man as well!!! He is tedious.

I like Ben - but I suspect he's naive and a bit dum.
Possibly, up until now, his idea of a heated argument would be when people become very polite to each other, but start sentences with things like “With the greatest respect...”

There is something very childish about him – the way he reacts when he thinks he's in trouble, and the way he deals with people shouting at him – Most men are only 12-years-old in their heads, it's just more noticeable with him

All ben was doing was telling a suppose friend Shabby didnt seem that fussed if they were going to leave the house.

There are two-faced people in that house. Look at Josie, earlier after that business about saying JJ had bad breath, she said to the group "I dont dislike him that much". Then later on when she was making up with JJ she told him "you're one of my favourites".

I like Ben and he's getting a hard time in the editing, nothing new there.

what?! poor ben!? that's just ridiculous!! ben was playing the room, desperately trying to get shabby nominated, and he got busted. ben is a nasty snake. he plays people's emotions against each other. he exploits people! he always talks down to people, he always points out other people's flaws which totally irritates me, he thinks he is better than other housemates, ben is such a scumbag. get ben out asap!

shabby is real and direct, ben is sneaky snake!

That's ok in my book. Ben knows Shabby's feelings. If I was stuck in a house I didn't like somebody and I knew they didnt like me Id be doing everything within the rules to get them nominated, and I am sure you would too. So what's the problem? Its all a game. Its not about being nasty or malicious.

i think you are wrong as ben only said what he saw ? wheather he should have said it or not is a diffrent dispute but he is a decent guy.

But Shabby was loving the negativity that was created from JJ and Josie arguing. You could see it in her eyes. She is the type of person who thrives in a negative and poisonous atmosphere.

If Shabby did rub her hands, and its a shame the editors didnt give us the opportunity to see it (I wonder why!), then she should be judged by her actions. If someone rubs their hands in that way to people arguing or threatening to leave then its safe to presume they're getting delight over it.

Ben did what he felt was best and tell his friend, he has no loyalty to Shabby. Now its all come out Ben is the bad guy in all this and being labeled as "manipulative", "a snake", "malicious" "horrible" etc etc typical overreaction.

I just hope the people watching can see what BB are doing with their editing.

He didn't see anything though, that's the point.

Even his best mate fat Dave said he was in the wrong. :nono:

It was made up bullshine.

Her excitement was over going to have a ciggy. Fat Dave his mate saw the same thing but only Ben put a negative spin on it simply to deflect attention because JJ was having a go at Ben for being greedy.

Shabby Ranks doesn't have a problem with Josie or JJ.

Hope that helps :xyxwave: