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MrWong 23-06-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390739)
My pursuit would end immediately because I’d have Craig and Anthony at the back of my mind and making such a fool of myself would definitely be on my mind.


I say unattainable because she’s straight and has a BF


Again, out of her league because she has a BF.

I think Shabby’s cant handle any kind of set back in life and her tears and tantrums back that up. I find her quite interesting but not at all likeable.

How do you know you wouldn't make a fool of yourself? You've never been locked up 24/7 with someone you really like. Also we don't know how Michelle and Craig behave in real life, maybe it was being in the house that made them act the way they did or maybe they are the way they looked on the TV. We'll never know.

Caoimhe said she's bi. Whether she has a b/f or not. She also said if she didn't have a b/f she'd go for it with Shabby.

GiRTh 23-06-2010 02:33 PM

How do I know I wouldnt make a fool of myself? Becasue unlike the Shabby's, Craigs and Michelle's of this world I understand the meaning of the words self-control and self-respect. Shabby is one big mess of emotions and tantrums. And she has the nerve to tell Ben to grow up. Interesting but certainly not likeable.

Even if Caomhe has said all those things the BF kind of trumps everything.

WOMBAI 23-06-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeing each other (Post 3390316)
I cannot help for the life of me ask if being Gay (when one is young) is the new rebellious Punk Rock and Roll. My Niece goes to college and is being put under pressure to believe she is "Gay", and it is NOW about finding who "ain't" Gay. It just seems to be the be the new "Trend" for very spoilt children to go down.

I say all that because SHABBY looks like she just being a spoilt brat and is all about outsmarting people and doing things to wind people up the wrong way. If someone sees this girl in 10-15 years and finds her living in a massive country house with her BANKER BONUS husband and 3 children talking about her rebellious "experimental days" do not be surprised.
How on earth someone can be in a house for a matter of days and cry on national TV for a straight girl is beyond me and drives me mad, then talks about her feelings that have to just be put down as insane, spoilt and uncontrollable at the end of the day. Shabby is nothing but a spoilt brat of and actress doing whatever the hell she pleases, and I have got her number.

Somehow I think that will apply to most of the so-called gay and bisexual teens on here! I do think a lot of it is about rebellion and experimentation.

MrWong 23-06-2010 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=GiRTh;3390771]How do I know I wouldnt make a fool of myself? Becasue unlike the Shabby's, Craigs and Michelle's of this world I understand the meaning of the words self-control and self-respect. Shabby is one big mess of emotions and tantrums. And she has the nerve to tell Ben to grow up. Interesting but certainly not likeable.

Even if Caomhe has said all those things the BF kind of trumps everything.[/QUOTE]

But you don't know how they act in the real world do you? Michelle and Craig could have been like that because of the enviroment they are in, emotions are heightened in that place. They may behave 'normally' outside of the house. You just don't know.

They might have self control, self respect outside of the house but being in the house totally messes up your head. Housemates say that all the time. They can act out of character. So as you've never been in that situation you'll never know in what way you'd act. You might act out of character too.

Also, i never said her b/f trumps everything. I said Caoimhe's giving out mixed signals, saying Shabby would be in with a shot if she was single, for example. That'll not help in ending things abruptly.

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=MrWong;3390822]
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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390771)
How do I know I wouldnt make a fool of myself? Becasue unlike the Shabby's, Craigs and Michelle's of this world I understand the meaning of the words self-control and self-respect. Shabby is one big mess of emotions and tantrums. And she has the nerve to tell Ben to grow up. Interesting but certainly not likeable.

Even if Caomhe has said all those things the BF kind of trumps everything.[/QUOTE]

But you don't know how they act in the real world do you? Michelle and Craig could have been like that because of the enviroment they are in, emotions are heightened in that place. They may behave 'normally' outside of the house. You just don't know.

They might have self control, self respect outside of the house but being in the house totally messes up your head. Housemates say that all the time. They can act out of character. So as you've never been in that situation you'll never know in what way you'd act. You might act out of character too.

Also, i never said her b/f trumps everything. I said Caoimhe's giving out mixed signals, saying Shabby would be in with a shot if she was single, for example. That'll not help in ending things abruptly.

You gonna write a book?

MrWong 23-06-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)

You gonna write a book?

Ever read one?

Probably not if a few paragraphs offend you.

Try adding to the debate. It's a forum, shocking i know :shocked:

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390849)

Ever read one?

Probably not if a few paragraphs offend you.

Try adding to the debate. It's a forum, shocking i know :shocked:

Stories from the Thousand and One Nights?

GiRTh 23-06-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)
But you don't know how they act in the real world do you? Michelle and Craig could have been like that because of the enviroment they are in, emotions are heightened in that place. They may behave 'normally' outside of the house. You just don't know.

Time has told us that both of those were pretty much being themselves in the house, especially Craig. Michelle got a bit of a bad edit but again she was being hersefl.


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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)
They might have self control, self respect outside of the house but being in the house totally messes up your head. Housemates say that all the time. They can act out of character. So as you've never been in that situation you'll never know in what way you'd act. You might act out of character too.

I think thats bollox and HMs's use it as an excuse for their poor behaviour. Most of the time I've seen HM's go to that one when prompted by an interviewer. Its very rare for a HM to use that excuse- and it is an excuse - by themselves.

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)
Also, i never said her b/f trumps everything. I said Caoimhe's giving out mixed signals, saying Shabby would be in with a shot if she was single, for example. That'll not help in ending things abruptly.

As for mixed signals. They seem to have stopped now Shabby's declared her intentions. LEts see if Shabby reads the new signals.

MrWong 23-06-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390859)
Time has told us that both of those were pretty much being themselves in the house, especially Craig. Michelle got a bit of a bad edit but again she was being hersefl.


I think thats bollox and HMs's use it as an excuse for their poor behaviour. Most of the time I've seen HM's go to that one when prompted by an interviewer. Its very rare for a HM to use that excuse- and it is an excuse - by themselves.

As for mixed signals. They seem to have stopped now Shabby's declared her intentions. LEts see if Shabby reads the new signals.

Sorry but time can't tell you anything. Knowing them in person could though.
Then you'd know if they were behaving out of character or not.

It's not bollocks, didn't you ever watch the psychology show they used to have BB's Big Brain or whatever. Emotions in the house are magnified resulting in you acting out of character.

Yes as we arn't Mystic Meg, lets see...

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390893)
Sorry but time can't tell you anything. Knowing them in person could though.
Then you'd know if they were behaving out of character or not.

It's not bollocks, didn't you ever watch the psychology show they used to have BB's Big Brain or whatever. Emotions in the house are magnified resulting in you acting out of character.

Yes as we arn't Mystic Meg, lets see...

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GiRTh 23-06-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390893)
Sorry but time can't tell you anything. Knowing them in person could though.
Then you'd know if they were behaving out of character or not.

It's not bollocks, didn't you ever watch the psychology show they used to have BB's Big Brain or whatever. Emotions in the house are magnified resulting in you acting out of character.

Yes as we arn't Mystic Meg, lets see...

I can only go by how they come across on TV. Of course I've never met them and I wasn’t under the impression that I said I had met them, or do know them, but surely you can understand we can get an impression of how someone is based on their TV appearances? And given their TV appearance plus how they behaved on the show I can see a number of consistencies.

It is bollox. Without question, in my mind. Its amazing that the quieter characters never say that. It’s only the idiots who've made fool's on themselves. And they're usually prompted to say so by some interviewer.

brian3 23-06-2010 03:26 PM

Brett Anderson used to do this back in the early 90s. Even then it seemed tirsome. Now it's boring and annoying.

DOG 23-06-2010 03:42 PM

Gay is something your born as! Choice or trends have nothing to do with it. Some members of the gay community (and maybe some that aren't) may be in denial about it, but it is what it is.

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 03:46 PM

Come out from toilets you heteros! Be Proud To Be Hetero!

DOG 23-06-2010 03:50 PM

I'm hetero. :xyxwave:

MrWong 23-06-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390942)
I can only go by how they come across on TV. Of course I've never met them and I wasn’t under the impression that I said I had met them, or do know them, but surely you can understand we can get an impression of how someone is based on their TV appearances? And given their TV appearance plus how they behaved on the show I can see a number of consistencies.

It is bollox. Without question, in my mind. Its amazing that the quieter characters never say that. It’s only the idiots who've made fool's on themselves. And they're usually prompted to say so by some interviewer.

You'd only know the consistencies if you know them in real life though. Michelle was a bit of a stalker in the house. Is she a stalker out of the house or is she more accepting of being given the brush off when there are plenty more fish in the sea.

It wasn't just the housemates giving that as a reason. Tt was the psychologists on Big Brain that did. Often explaining away the hm's behaviour being due, in part, to the pressure of being part of the show.

Simone. 23-06-2010 04:14 PM

I feel sorry for Shabby, I really do because I've been in that situation before & it's awfull. Especially considering they're in such a confined space there's just no where to get away.

I don't exactly like her, but I do feel bad.

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Simone. (Post 3391225)
I feel sorry for Shabby, I really do because I've been in that situation before & it's awfull. Especially considering they're in such a confined space there's just no where to get away.

I don't exactly like her, but I do feel bad.

:laugh:

Shaun 23-06-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3391241)
:laugh:

What's so funny about that?

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3391250)
What's so funny about that?

Stupidity.

GiRTh 23-06-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3391201)
You'd only know the consistencies if you know them in real life though. Michelle was a bit of a stalker in the house. Is she a stalker out of the house or is she more accepting of being given the brush off when there are plenty more fish in the sea.

As I said a few posts ago, I think Michelle got a bit of a bad edit. I don't think she's a stalker at all but we have seen evidence that when she wants something she goes for it.

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3391201)
It wasn't just the housemates giving that as a reason. Tt was the psychologists on Big Brain that did. Often explaining away the hm's behaviour being due, in part, to the pressure of being part of the show.

I watched that show and I agreed with some of it and I disagreed with other parts of it. Psychology is not an exact science and the psychologists are giving us their theoretical interpretation of the HM's feelings. I just don't buy that the house made Cesar(BB7) behave the way he did - as he said on BBLB while being very heavily prompted by Dermot. I don't believe that Lesley(BB6) was made to behave the way she did because of the pressure of being in the house. I believe on both those occasions, and many more ,they used that as an excuse.

Niall 23-06-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3391258)
Stupidity.

Explain please.

coolestrock 23-06-2010 05:17 PM

oooooooooooh shut that door

MrWong 23-06-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3391303)
As I said a few posts ago, I think Michelle got a bit of a bad edit. I don't think she's a stalker at all but we have seen evidence that when she wants something she goes for it.

I watched that show and I agreed with some of it and I disagreed with other parts of it. Psychology is not an exact science and the psychologists are giving us their theoretical interpretation of the HM's feelings. I just don't buy that the house made Cesar(BB7) behave the way he did - as he said on BBLB while being very heavily prompted by Dermot. I don't believe that Lesley(BB6) was made to behave the way she did because of the pressure of being in the house. I believe on both those occasions, and many more ,they used that as an excuse.

I'd love to know their theoretical interpretation on the latest events.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/a...4#dsq-comments

Shame they got rid of the show.

PooBay 23-06-2010 05:42 PM

Most women will try carpet munching at some point...and most will grow out of it. It's just a fad.


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