another one here who thought they 'wernt friends', Despite the fact that JJ, Dave, and SS herself thought they were...

Out of 13 others he chose one of his clique, one that he had told he could trusteded and that he was her friend repeatedly, to nom...

lol classy guy.

Do you actually watch big brother? When he nominated her the first thing he said was ''I'm gong to nominate someone whom I consider a close friend of mine''.

As previously stated in this tread... three times... people are defending Ben because they dislike sunshine. Take a step back, look at the situation. Constantly tellling someone your their friend, then nominating them, is dirty.

Anyone who is too thick to understand that shouldn't be posting here.

Definitly Danny, on both points.

People here just tune out what dosent agree with their view of their fav HM though lol... it isnt the place to come for objective chat.

to be honest they are all calling each other "friend" which is absolutely ridiculous. They have done this since day one mind, they know nothing of each other as they are stuck in this controlled environment. You cant just go around calling people friend in these situations, it is pathetic (in these circumstances) and childish. No wonder these situations happen, when a "friend" betrays another "friend"...because they are NOT friends, just people with similar narrow views on other people. Jjust saying so doesn't make it so.

Ehh excuse me I'll post here whether you like it or not and you don't even know me just because we have different views don't mean younare smart and I'm the think one besides isn't the point of this to have discussion and know what are other people's opinions are kmt

Its not about opinons, its about people not watching the program properly, posting stuff they know nothing about AND argueing that opinion against those who have.

In my opinion, they both suck.

Peoples opinions are just that, their own opinions. Just agree to disagree because people read situations differently. :D

I quite liked JJ's tactic to deflect any possible ill feeling towards those discussing nominations onto Ben. Not only did it get Ufe, himself and Caiomhe out of the firing line it also deflected attention from Govan and Shabby(who also discussed nominations)

Talk about an excellent smoke screen.

In reality Ben did say he considered her a close friend however he was nominating her for the benefit of the house, so what, did anyone else own up to being two faced, the short answer is no.

Big Brother sort of forced that argument by mentioning Sunshine as being the subject of the speculation about Bens nomination. As he felt forced into a corner by JJ he had to defend himself and in doing so, clumsily, earned the house another punishment, the real fault lies in those discussing who he had nominated but mostly in JJ for pushing that line of conversation to get off the hook for being one of the original party.

I would have thought people would have been more perturbed by Scabby and Jovan's discussion to stitch up Mario.

Yeah, Shabby and Govan wormed their way out of that situation effortlessly. Two extremely manipulative people.

I agree. He is a hypocrite and playing the game. I think Dave is a hypocrite too.

yeah and im sick of it!!!!!!! :mad: he always starts these viscious attacks ben's his victim as soon as he betrayed ben with the whole "shabby rubing hands gate" i knew ben was always going to be john's constant target! . john's not happy unless he's causing all this bullying and argueing thats how he gets his jolly's! :shocked: