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Frank E 01-07-2010 08:45 AM

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Profile of the Sociopath

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

Oh ****! Thats me that is!

fruit_cake 01-07-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by big_bother (Post 3427704)
You ever thought maybe it's because she's feeling awkward?!. A boyfriend at home and you've got some lesbian pouring out her heart to you, yada yada yada.

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe. I'm just stating.

she's never said to shabby that she's not interested, she's led her on all the way so i think she's reaping what she sows at the moment.

discotheque 01-07-2010 08:52 AM

Yes, she was on that Irish Big Brother wasn't she ? The one where a number of house mates met with unfortunate accidents.

big_bother 01-07-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 3427707)
she's never said to shabby that she's not interested, she's led her on all the way so i think she's reaping what she sows at the moment.

True :tongue:

jjj2 01-07-2010 09:02 AM

she is just like all Dubliners too straight talking for her own good forgetting to censor herself for an audience that is not use to this sort of strraight talking, Also like alot of Irish people throwing in a few F--ks or other swear words to add extra enfaces to what she is saying , Geldof dose the same. Irish people are so use to it they would hardly notice the swear words in the sentence but it comes as a big shock to english people (Geldof,give me the F--k-n money)

Sabrewulf238 01-07-2010 09:03 AM

I always thought she laughed because she was feeling awkward, people do that.

Livia 01-07-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBlack (Post 3426504)
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Profile of the Sociopath... etc. etc. etc...

Every year we're assured of certain things. They are as inevitable as the seasons. One is that after every eviction people will post that "the show is over because the stupid public are voting out the entertaining ones", yet the following week they're all back on here discussing the remaining housemates. The other is that, at some point, someone will give us a long, rambling cut-and-paste explanation of what a sociopath is, as if we weren't capable of Googling it ourselves if we needed to.

InOne 01-07-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by big_bother (Post 3427704)
You ever thought maybe it's because she's feeling awkward?!. A boyfriend at home and you've got some lesbian pouring out her heart to you, yada yada yada.

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe. I'm just stating.

A Bf of 3 months, and I highly doubt they 'madly' in love as she says. And yes, she was awkward at first, but I'm talking about when Shabby tells her personal stuff, nothing to do with liking her.

InOne 01-07-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitty (Post 3427128)
She just seems very cold and unemotional to me, very much like Noirin last year.

Wouldn't put her in the same league as Bea though Joe ;)

Indeed, Bea was not sly in the slightest, she just did it lol

Jords 01-07-2010 02:19 PM

Joe really wants his sociopath this year. :laugh:

Niamh. 01-07-2010 02:21 PM

haha, I knew it had to be you when I saw the S word JoeJoe:hugesmile:

Niamh. 01-07-2010 02:23 PM

I'm not a fan of Caoimhe at all but I will say that the laughing when Shabby gets emotional with her seems to me like a nervous reaction on Caoimhes part, like she doesn't know how to act and feels a bit uncomfortable

InOne 01-07-2010 02:25 PM

I guess it is hard to tell really, as Shabby can be quite full on at time. But I do still think she has a really cold side to her. Also a nasty tongue, and she knew Dave could hear him when she called him a weirdo, I mean, who does that?

Niamh. 01-07-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3428681)
I guess it is hard to tell really, as Shabby can be quite full on at time. But I do still think she has a really cold side to her. Also a nasty tongue, and she knew Dave could hear him when she called him a weirdo, I mean, who does that?

I just think she's a shallow bitch desperate to fit in with "the cool gang"

InOne 01-07-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3428687)
I just think she's a shallow bitch desperate to fit in with "the cool gang"

Probably goes back to her past where she said she looked like a boy and all that.

AndyJK 01-07-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestbrother (Post 3427702)
She's just a b!tch.

Succinctly put :spin:

starry 01-07-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3428709)
Probably goes back to her past where she said she looked like a boy and all that.

Shabby told her she looked like a man in her task costume today. :D

WOMBAI 01-07-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3426457)
She cleary does not give a **** about anyone. She just laughs in Shabbys face when ever she tries to get emotional with her. And well, you know the rest, sly, lethal tongue ect

Oh come on - she is just a nasty bitch - not sociopath!

InOne 01-07-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3428876)
Oh come on - she is just a nasty bitch - not sociopath!

We've had them before in BB, no reason why one wouldn't pop up again.

yousoboo! 01-07-2010 03:35 PM

yes. awful female.

boomoo 01-07-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MusicMan (Post 3426521)
I think Caoimhe just laughs and giggles out of nervousness or awkwardness around a certain topic (ie Shabby's feelings for her)
A natural involuntary reaction I reckon
I haven't seen her be particularly nasty or vicious however

She is totally embarrassed by Shabby's persistence. It reminds me of Craig and Anthony. Caoimhe likes Shabby and finds her interesting but that is it.
Shabby keeps telling other housemates she is being led on.
Does she want Caiomhe to say get lost.

Shabby is just talking to other housemates to get support because she fully intends to stay when Caiomhe is out on Friday

InOne 01-07-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by boomoo (Post 3430270)
She is totally embarrassed by Shabby's persistence. It reminds me of Craig and Anthony. Caoimhe likes Shabby and finds her interesting but that is it.
Shabby keeps telling other housemates she is being led on.
Does she want Caiomhe to say get lost.

Shabby is just talking to other housemates to get support because she fully intends to stay when Caiomhe is out on Friday

Yes but we're not just talking about the Shabby thing. There are other things as well.


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