ignoring her wasn't "being nasty". He didn't focus and pick on her AND ignore her at the same time. As for Nathan .... he tried to use Steve to attack the rest. "Steve is shattered". he said...BS he was. Shabbs was right in that argument but dropped it because he was ranting and approaching her. That's how Nathan wins most of his arguments with women I guess.

I've been reading and posting on the BB boards since the first BB started -mostly on the main C4 BB site and I've noticed that men get away with a -hell of a lot more- than the women ever do when they're on the show, it starts even before they get in the house in the beginning! because women always manage to turn anything and everything a woman does or doesn't do and everything a man does or doesn't do into a positive.

Women are rediculously soft on men and unfairly hard on themselves and each other.:conf:

But Nathan didn't put her in her place by winning an argument but by ranting and facing her off. SHe was right and he lied the best he could until he had nothing in the armory except physical intimidation.
When asked " did you say we smashed up Steve's chair" he said " I never said that!!" .... BS
He said " Steve was really shattered!!!". Nah he wasn't.
Nathan made a d*ck move and Shabbs was about to call him on it. Josie thought the same. That's exactly why Josie brought it up with Shabbs in earshot.

but everytime rachel did something like a look thats she has probably pulled for most of her life john james would then pounce on her.

but because you fancy him he will never do anything wrong.

i totally agree.

Truth is, Nathans patience with her and her theatrics and tantrums had run out. He had been biting his tongue for a long time. In that moment she triggered him off and he finally let rip. Simple as that. It was just one short rant. Nothing more.

Quit trying to build a big three part ITV drama out of it.

"but because you fancy him he will never do anything wrong. "
don't get personal go for cheap shots bro ... that amateur.

Hate JJ, I have actually voted for both to go so for me it's a win win situation. Its obvious he sooooo thinks he will stay. I think he is trying to eliminate competition by turning on Corin and having Josie hate her as well.

I think Nathan is just more nobby and aggressive, John James has a vulnerablity about him and not intimidating at all

but i bet im right.

lol, if you look on the CH4 site theirs comments such as "oh no don't evict JJ I want him and Josie to get it on!" How pathetic.
It will not happen!

i like josie but the relationship is fake.

It's 90 part channel 4 drama. Welcome to TIBB hehe.
My point was he didn't "put her in her place" by winning an argument but by physically threatening her. If he hadn't she'd have owned him. Yeah she escalated it by telling him "p*ss off" or something but he was making up lies as he went and could only do that to keep his head above water. Finally he got physically aggressive and as Nathan has learnt... this usually works with physically smaller people. Nice one Nath. :P

having to get trolly and personal once you run out of an argument, in a thread YOU created!! ( epic) , means no your not right. lol

I know, everyone says it's legit but have you noticed since the beech ball incident over Josie being fave he is so sucking up to her!!
I am really hating him, I don't see why people are being good towards him because of his looks and the fact 2 people have left because of him makes his ego inflate even further. He so thinks he is in control and can get Corin evicted and it WORKING by the looks of things.

Or maybe he just doesnt like Corin? haha

Maybe, lol. Just getting sick of him

i am not a troll for saying that you fancy him and im not saying its a crime but i dont think you should like a housemate because you fancy him.

and i aint lost the argument.

and what about when he called josie fat and ugly if it was nathan he would have being called a dick.

true, you can't hardly touch them because JJ is gen about Josie. I hate FAKEmances. Many are saying Nathan is a woman beater etc. So why not call JJ a sly w*nker or Josie a fat bitch.

Oh spare me the vulnerability crap. Another sucker falling for his gameplan.

At least you know where you are with Nathan. JJ isn't even clear about his sexuality. So much deceit going on with that guy. You should pay attention to the detail.

trolly = you getting personal to win an argument that you otherwise can't. Don't worry your not the first to need to resort to it.
"and what about when he called josie fat and ugly if it was nathan he would have being called a dick."
= rant about something or other which doesn't back you point up... lol in fact your off topic in your own topic wtg :P

"You should pay attention to the detail. "
Zippy has been checking out JJ's details! lol

I am:hugesmile:...what are you on about his sexuality for? Whats that got to do with the price of eggs?

how im compareing john james and nathan you twat.

and how am i acting like a troll for having a different opinion to you.

and it makes you sound childish.

By which I mean the cracks in the persona he so desperately tries to parade.

His 3 step moisturising routine in the dark doesn't quite fit the carefree, non looks obsessed guy he tries to pass as.